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July 19 2004

An epic tale of sex, violence and religion, that will appeal to Buffy fans. A review of the film of the latest telling of the King Arthur tale. "Arthur has something for everyone - even, it would seem now, Buffy fans."

It amazes me almost everytime I see Buffy even briefly mentioned in film reviews and TV show articles, how much an impact it has made on the culture.

"His story, moreover, operates between other worlds as well, such as natural and supernatural, and Christian and pagan. ... It also operates at the interface between male and female. It has always included powerful women, some of whom move events in their own right and challenge prevailing values."

I don't really understand what this has to do with Buffy I mean they say nothing about Buffy they just have Buffy as the last word of the article.
I think it was meant as a comparison that the latest Gwenivere has some very notiable Buffyesque quailities about her. Compared to how Gwenivere has been portrayed in other films. Also the references to the powerfulness of the women in this version. Basically perhaps re-writing classics with a bit of Buffy-styling for the women. They are no longer the damsels as much as they are now equally the heros. To me the last line was simply a statement for those who did not get the Buffy influence on the film the review was stating. I mean if anything they could have compared Gwenivere to Xena instead of Buffy but the reviewer saw a stronger link between the heroin in this film and the Slayer, instead of the more obvious connection that could have been made to the Warrior Princess.
I saw the trailer, bored me to tears. And the other reviews I've been reading haven't been overwhelmingly positive.
I've heard from people who have seen it that they were surprised by how better than expected it was. Of course if you go see a movie you already have a low oppinnion of I guess the only way to go is to either meet or exceed expectations.
I saw the film, it was decent, the kind of movie you walk out of and are already forgetting about it.

With that said I see no connection whatsoever to Buffy's storytelling, and the Gwenivere connection is sketchy at best.
I'm all for women empowerment, The Mists of Avalon did quite rule, but the Guenivere is Xena just plain bugged me. far too over the top to be believable in the timeframe. I guess I'm just a stickler for accuracy, even in a myth
I saw it. It is more about male bonding than it is about female empowerment. But, I had no problem with Gwenivere kicking ass. There were strong females at that time. Boudicea being the most famous.
But rabid was right -there was nothing in the movie to thrill a Buffy fan's heart.
I thought it was a good movie. Although it lacked some of the myth, it was more historically accurate. Very cool.
It's not really historically accurate. They just went for *one* of the theories about what *may* have inspired the Arthur myths of legend, that it was a roman centurion. And then threw some of the mythical names and concepts in to create a blend, that was really only based on the scriptwriter's imagination.

What pisses me off is how they try to pretend it's been decided all around that this roman soldier-theory is the 'true history' of it all. It's not. Many historians believe Arthur never really existed, some believe he's a mixture of several kings and then there's plenty other candidates to be the 'one guy'.

And really, with the Arthur legends they should've gone for the myth. Show me Pendragon! Show me the sword in the stone in the market place. Show me the early struggles for the throne, the start of the round table, the battle with the Black Knight, the Lady of the Lake. Give me the tragic love triangle with Lancelot and Guinevere. Gawain! Parcival! Morgan LeFay! Mordred! The Battle of Camlann! If they'd put all of that on the screen a la Lord of the Rings, it would've rocked my boat.

With this, the trailers don't even seem to rate it a rental for me.
My favorite version of the Arthur legend is the book "The Crystal Cave" by Mary Stewart which is told from Merlin's POV. It places Arthur's time at the end of Roman occupation of Britain. There is also some intesting bits about pre-Christian religion and its impact on Arthur's history (as per "The Mists of Avalon" - which ranks #2). I haven't seen this film but would be interested if the book influenced the film at all.
Didn't the movie "Excalibur" also speak from Merlin's pov? I loved that movie. All gritty and mystique-y. I remember all the hoopla when it came out too. Wasn't there an Oscar nom in there somewhere? The English man who played Merlin was amazing. Wasn't it Nicol Williams or some such? He was fantastic!

That was always the grooviest Camelot tale IMO.
The actor's name was Nicol Williamson. I thought the movie a little over the top myself, but he was great.
The movie Arthur owes nothing to Mary Stewart's Crystal Cave, more's the pity. That is my favourite "Arthur" series as well.
Arthur the movie would have been better if they had paid more attention to the dialogue and less to the "authentic" armour.



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