(SPOILER)
Reports on the first look at Serenity.
Interested in knowing a bit more about what happens in the movie? Then this is the spoiler thread for you.
Best not to post major spoilers about what happens in the film i.e. a character dies or blow by blow summary/plot details. Use the spoilerish test screening reports at AICN as your guide.
December 14 2004
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And that question is.... do we learn what happened in Book's past?
rabid | December 15, 02:05 CET
Oddjob | December 15, 02:38 CET
- I went ahead and used my stopwatch, and from the start of the Universal logo to the end of the film when the credits were briefly shown then cut off, I'd say the film was about two hours and five minutes long.
- I was really impressed by the long take at the start of the film (watch the opening of The Player and you'll see what I mean). The opening scene took place as one continuous camera shot, starting with Mal and Wash from the cockpit of Serenity, and following Mal as he talks to Zoe, Jayne, Kaylee, and Simon(?) throughout the bowels of the ship, ending with River in the cargo bay. So you were introduced to several of Serenity's crew in a take that lasted a good three to five minutes? I wonder how many times that scene was filmed?
- The biggest issue I had with the screening tonight is that I *really* hope that the film stays as-is, the way Joss envisioned it in his script... Pure Unadulterated Joss(tm). Because judging by the reactions of many of the fans who were in the audience, I have a bad feeling that their input is going to wreck the key reason why a certain plot point happened in the film... it was written to prove that this is not your typical sci-fi genre film, and that anything is possible... and if it's taken away, it's not going to give that sort of unpredictability to it.
[ edited by Oddjob on 2004-12-15 10:24 ]
Oddjob | December 15, 03:20 CET
But I'd argue that it's actually *better* for people to check out the DVDs *before* watching the film so you get all of the backstory on the characters though in the film!
Oddjob | December 15, 03:43 CET
For example, Buffy and Faith's fight in Faith's loft in "Graduation" was awesome because you could follow the action and it told a story. Ditto for the chateau fight in The Matrix Reloaded. As for bad fight scenes, watch the mansion raid in Tomb Raider.
Oddjob | December 15, 04:09 CET
Simon | December 15, 04:13 CET
Oddjob | December 15, 04:24 CET
Apocalypse | December 15, 05:21 CET
Oddjob | December 15, 05:25 CET
Anywho I can't wait, hearing such great stuff. Hearing that Summer Glau deserves huge credit for her physical work, a lot about some new characters (praticularly huge props to our new villain.)
Sounds exciting.
[ edited by rabid on 2004-12-15 12:33 ]
rabid | December 15, 05:32 CET
Melisande | December 15, 05:49 CET
"Best not to post major spoilers about what happens in the film i.e. a character dies or blow by blow summary/plot details."
I will neither confirm nor deny Simon's possible death. How's that? I should become a politician!
Oddjob | December 15, 06:07 CET
Damnit major spoilers are the only ones I care about!
Melisande | December 15, 06:11 CET
If it is him i would be dissapointed, but thank god it wasnt Inara or Kaylee. But what would River do now. She will be totally lost without him. On her own!
Oddjob, i am so tempted to ask you to email me, but i dont want to. Im gonna hit myself repeatadly and struggle with this for many months, so if you do get a request on one of my weaker days, please refuse and tell me to go away. The same for anybody else whose seen the movie out there and im warning you all i'm a desperate, desperate guy!
Apocalypse | December 15, 06:15 CET
Oddjob | December 15, 06:16 CET
Seriously deep-down I appreciate not knowing. Although it will be very very hard.
rabid | December 15, 06:17 CET
I hope they keep it in. To tell the story properly, I think the "extreme" stuff needs to be shown.
If not, oh well. I bet it'll be on the DVD!
lalaa | December 15, 06:18 CET
Lalaa: Oh yes, the scene in question is shocking, but I was actually referring to another more shocking moment that I hope doesn't get changed or removed from the film entirely, because as I've said before, it shows that anything is possible in the Serenityverse.
[ edited by Oddjob on 2004-12-15 13:30 ]
Oddjob | December 15, 06:27 CET
rabid | December 15, 06:29 CET
Still, one friend tonight said she wouldn't take her daughter to see it, so there you go.
Oddjob | December 15, 06:35 CET
Melisande | December 15, 06:39 CET
(On that note, it's 3:45 AM on the West Coast, and I'm exhausted. I'm sure other people who went last night will be able to answer questions.)
[ edited by Oddjob on 2004-12-15 13:43 ]
Oddjob | December 15, 06:41 CET
lalaa | December 15, 06:44 CET
And there were also some interesting comments that were brought up at the panel afterwards that I wanted to mention, but it touches on the major spoilery stuff... so I don't know how to proceed on that front.
[ edited by Oddjob on 2004-12-15 13:59 ]
Oddjob | December 15, 06:56 CET
Then again we're talking Joss Whedon, the man never uses a reset button.
Anyone here remember Buffy's death :).
rabid | December 15, 06:58 CET
Well according to what I've read:
Kaylee: "What now Captain?"
Before Mal can open his mouth, a blinding white light appears in Sereniy's cockpit and we hear a voice saying "Let's go to work."
Four people run out of the light
Jayne: "Ching-wah tsao duh liou mahng"
Spike: Oh bloody hell.
Fin
Simon | December 15, 07:34 CET
Angel- Caleb? Jasmine? Ballerina Lady? What the?
[ edited by rabid on 2004-12-15 15:01 ]
rabid | December 15, 07:58 CET
So does anyone know what exactly are the rules about restarting Firefly if the movie does extremely well. :)
[ edited by rabid on 2004-12-15 15:04 ]
rabid | December 15, 08:00 CET
As much as I like Whedonesque and its well moderated environment I sure hope there will be other sites that doesn't shy away from posting the 'real stuff', the 'spoilers' posted here so far have only whetted my appetite and my curiosity are going to kill me long before the movie is released, if I dont find out more.
While I really admire those that try and actually succeed to remain unspoiled and appreciate the comments made on how much better the experience will be if the film is watched unspoiled, thats not for me, once I know that the information is out there I really need to find out as much as possible, after all if I was not the curious type from the start hunting for all possible information on Joss's series I wouldn't have found spoilerslayer and by way of that site have found whedonesque.
I miss spoilerslayer.
jpr | December 15, 08:54 CET
I was spoiled for most of the best and most heartbreaking moments on both Buffy and Angel, and I still felt them with every fiber of my being.
Melisande | December 15, 08:56 CET
acp | December 15, 09:03 CET
Willowy | December 15, 09:10 CET
Oddjob wonderful spoilers.......i saw it but reading your stuff was just the amount of spoilers i would have liked.
[ edited by SillyD on 2004-12-15 17:33 ]
SillyD | December 15, 10:10 CET
Simon | December 15, 10:16 CET
edited to clarify: (In this thread, I mean. Not taking up the entire front page.)
[ edited by wren on 2004-12-15 17:49 ]
wren | December 15, 10:44 CET
Regarding Book's past: After the show, Veggiebelle, Bria Ferguson and I were lamenting that we didn't find out about Book's past, when Bria (I believe) pointed out certain parallels between Book and another major character in the movie. That, along with some of Book's comments, leads us to believe that maybe we did learn about Book's past, just not directly.
Oddjob, can you tell us anything about the panel afterwards? None of us were chosen for it.
Airawyn | December 15, 10:53 CET
Willowy | December 15, 10:56 CET
Second...I think Joss would be upset if we discussed this here so publicly. I like that he visits this site occasionally and posts. He might feel less friendly if the major stuff was revealed. I would love to know what he thought about the crowd last night and hope that he joins us here today.
The spoilers that might come out on this are HUGE. There is no other way to say it.
Big, exciting, juicy, and heartbreaking.
kdavid323 | December 15, 11:10 CET
Most people thought it was excellent or very good. I think overall it went well. Minus me wanting to hurt a few people.
SillyD | December 15, 11:12 CET
Anyroad, I've been lurking all over the place (LJs, boards, forums, watercoolers) to see what people who went to the screening thought about it.
It's one of those rare days when everyone agrees that "the spoilers are huge and my lips are sealed as it would spoil the enjoyment of the movie for everyone". And this is like coming from serious spoiler whores.
So for the moment, no mention of the major spoilers.
Anyway, how about that Stargate SG-1 season 9 casting? Anyone else see that one coming?
Simon | December 15, 11:20 CET
Would have liked to see your piece on spoiler policy though.
jpr | December 15, 12:28 CET
TENSAI!!!
Willowy | December 15, 12:34 CET
Oddjob | December 15, 15:16 CET
Herc called The Operative amusingly philosophical and a self-described monster. That pretty much sums up Jubal Early too. So, my question is: Is The Operative a character that is in the same vein as Jubal, or is he definitely a completely different character?
lalaa | December 15, 15:33 CET
I'd say that The Operative is a more menacing character because he's a "Believer," so he'll do *anything* for what he sees as the greater good. Granted, it's been awhile since I've seen Firefly so I can't remember if Early at least had a code of honor that he adhered to (i.e. you don't shoot someone in the back), but The Operative certainly didn't!
On an unrelated note, Zoe's line during the heist to the guy about heroes definitely had some foreshadowing to it.
Oddjob | December 15, 15:47 CET
SillyD | December 15, 15:57 CET