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December 31 2004

This year's comic world runs amok with creative glory and ugly disasters. "There are a lot of Hollywood types who think they can write comics (Hi, Kevin Smith), but Marvel's Joss Whedon blew everyone away with `Astonishing X-Men,' one of the few comics to actually live up to its name." (Added) Joss' "Official Holiday Post" inside

"The `Buffy the Vampire Slayer' scribe staked the competition - the other 93 X-Men titles - with exciting stories that were immediately accessible to new readers and rich with nuance for veterans."

And here's another article in the Boston Herald praising Angel as being one of the best shows of 2004: Top 10 shows, bottom 5 and 5 hopes for 2005

Well, the great thing about nobody posting on comic book threads is now I can be first or nearfirst, and this can be like my own personal thread made up by me.

As the new year comes tumbling at us like a giant, heaving sack of meat, gristle and hoof-parts, making some kind of horrible screeching and staring at us with its one bloodsoaked eyeball, the joys of Christmas and family make one reflect mellowly on what we've learned in this year. I'd like to share a little of that with you all, unless you are under the age of eleven or between the ages of twenty four and twenty six. (These yuletide musings contain violence, partial nudity, and strong and often incoherent language.) (May contain peanuts.)

Movies: They're hard to make. You have to work for a long time and have a lot of thoughts. And you can't just make Tim do everything for you like before.

Flans: They keep us going. And they retain the shape of the ramekin when you turn them over, like jello does.

Stalin: Killed maybe twenty million people, but the last four million he was just phoning it in.

Compassion: It's the thing where other people talk and you care about their stuff or something -- my wife tried to explain it, but I was in and out.

Happiness: Nothing is more wonderful than the sight of your own baby in your arms. And nothing is more annoying than people who tell you that.

Kill Bill: Long.

J.J. Abrams: Mysterious. Has taken my writers but made no demands, not even a note. He did send me Drew's ear, but I just think Drew was finished with it.

Cheese popcorn: Still important.

Serenity: uhh... nothing comes to mind. Doesn't it mean, like, peacefulness or something?

April: Amazingly enough, actually IS the cruelest month.

Resolutions: Too many to tell, and some are federally incriminating. I'm not perfect (I'm prefectly PROPORTIONED, which is where that confusion comes in) and I've taken a cold hard look at my self in the wane of aught four. There's changes. Work to be done. I plan to be a better, more focussed person next year, and if at all possible, have a bionic arm.

I also resolve to write more. Not like, BENDIS more, but a lot. And maybe have some protien shakes, so my body stays in good enough shape to hold up my bionic arm, which will probably be heavy.

Santa Claus: A vicious lie. (But A Christmas Carol really did happen, with the ghosts and all.)

Wonder Woman: Hmmmm....

Well, kids, the fire is slowly dying, like my kidneys, so let's call it a night. Tomorrow I put on a little hat and raise a glass of champagne for another rotation around the sun. I may stay up till ten. Thank you all for a great year made greater by your community. And remember, stay in school. But after all, isn't the circus a kind of school? A school of life, with dwarfs and sweaty carnies and elephants instead of learning. Stay in school or at the circus. Or in a parking lot. Or somehwere with plants, and ferns. Please leave.

Happy holidays! -- The Remains of Joss Whedon.
Dammit Joss, first you inform me that leprechauns aren't real and now you tell me that Santa Claus is a vicious lie!?!?

What's next on the list? The tooth fairy? Not that it matters anymore, she stopped giving me money a long time ago. Seems like she doesn't pay out for teeth you steal from under your 5 year old nephew's pillow and put under your own. Go figure!

Anyway ...

Thanks for the holiday wishes Joss, your post definately cheered me up on a very cold, miserable day here in England. Hope you have had a great holiday yourself and are going to have an even better year in 2005.

By the way, i don't really steal my nephew's teeth from under his pillow honest! Well maybe just that once ...
Since Gifted has yet to be published in the UK, I went ahead and bought the first Ultimate X-men book - I thought I should probably read at least one other comic so I have something to compare it with ;)

Flans: Do more harm than good.

Does that qualify as a New Year's resolution?
Joss, you're awesome.

Happy New Year all.
May the new year be good to us all, full of Whedony-goodness and serenity with and without capital S.

Thanks to all Whedonesquers for making this a fantastic year for our site, including the great thread hijacker Himself, and especially to those who have supported us through our tip jar.

If you were considering to support us some more next year... please donate to aid the tsunami relief efforts instead. It will save lives and warm the cockles of your mods' hearts.
Thanks to Joss and the Whedonesque mods (including that new blue one) for making this past year more enjoyable. I feel so lucky to have "met" you all. May 2005 bring us a safer, more peaceful world, filled with joy and the comfort of friends and family. (And, of course, may it bring huge success for Serenity!) Happy New Year to the remains of Joss Whedon and to you all!

And may I add -- we found this past year that Jossverse fans can be extremely generous in helping the helpless, whether in the names of our favorite TV shows/characters or otherwise. Please follow up on Caroline's suggestion to donate whatever you can afford. And for those who have lost family members and loved ones in this latest natural disaster, my heart goes out to you.
What do you mean there's no Santa?!? Just as well, I suppose. I stopped worshiping Santa when the presents stopped coming. Fickle, I know, but what can I say?

Anyway, thanks Joss for stopping by once again! Happy New Year to everyone!
Joss - have a good new year right back at you!

giant, heaving sack of meat, gristle and hoof-parts, making some kind of horrible screeching and staring at us with its one bloodsoaked eyeball - you obviously saw my uncle Alan's arrival on Boxing Day morning!

And you know, everything now has peanuts in - best warning I ever saw was on a bag of salted peanuts - May contain traces of peanuts but...but...that's just not....

And thank you, for the generosity with which you spread your gift (because, well, your gift isn't death but something wonderous and creative!)

And on that note I am going to watch 'The Gift' right now - could never thank you enough for that special piece! Just watch that when you are depressed (and I mean end-it-all-for-real kind of depressed) and it will change your life - hell, it did mine, saved it really, and I owe you forever!
Indeed, best wishes for a very happy new year to all Whedonesquers and our Mr. Joss. This one would have been far drearier without you all!
Wonderful posts everyone! The Joss post is the cream on top and has made my day much brighter.

Catalyst2 - The Gift - yes it is a very special episode, but my sister already told me forget it, if it's her or me she'll choose her first.

What? No Santa?!? At least the Christmas Carol stuff happened, I knew that was to realistic not to be true.

I truely hope everyone has a Happy New Year for the whole year.
Spectatular Holiday Message. And to add to what Caroline says, donating to the tsunami relief fund would make us very happy indeed. And to my fellow Brits, if you want to donate (and you're an income tax payer) go to www.dec.org.uk. The taxman will pay the charity the tax you have paid on the donation. That's an extra 28p per pound you donate, with no extra cost to you.
Joss is sooo right - cheese popcorn, especially the white cheddar variety, is important.

2004 sure turned out to be an e-ticket ride, didn't it? Here's hoping that all our 2005 surprises are good, and we all get the Serenity we seek.
Great message, Joss. Have a safe, happy and successful 2005.
We all love you, Joss. Happy New Year to you and yours. Thanks for the peanut warning, you never can be too careful where breathing is concerned. ;)
Joss I wish you a happy new year.

And hey if I kidnap James Marsters or Vincent Kartheiser do you still react on demands?
Or do I have to kidnap a Writer like DeKnight? *g*

I would also send you an ear of someone... hey does the ear have to be from the person I kidnapped?
well that makes the kind of sense that doesn't.....
but no matter:
I love you Joss! And I love the idea of you writing A LOT MORE!
Because much as I love 'Astonishing X-men'
(that is a nod to the original thread Joss hijacked)
it is NOT enough...not nearly enough!
(I still do want some Buffyverse...with Spike)

And I want to thank Simon & the mods here at Whedonesque;
I love the site...you always have the best news first!

cheers!
Maribeth (embers)
Joss hijacked my thread! Joss hijacked my thread!!! I was wondering why there were so many posts!!

I hope everyone has a great year and I hope that the next year will be better for the world. I did make a donation through another method than the one offered here (didn't see it until after I already did it) but I was pleased to see the offer here to make a donation. I wish I was rich and I could send more money but all us little people can send a little and it can make a huge difference to those poor people. The world can be a horrible place at times with all the wars but when a tragedy hits we all seem to come together and try to help out each other.

I'm hoping for a better year and a happier year, and I hope everyone here has a great year - we all know of one very bright time coming up near the end of September!! So Happy New Year to Joss and everyone here at Whedonesque.
Joss, I can say without a doubt, that if anyone but you ever compared me to jello that they would no longer walk straight. But since I already feel that you own my soul and every emotion and feeling which it produces, I can confidently say that even though you say us flans keep you guys going, its because of you and everything which you have ever produced (with your MIND and not with your ummmm loins...wow...awkward...isn't "awkward" an awkward word to spell?? and say for that matter.....) that keeps me going every day in my life. I can't fathom the person that I would be today if I didn't stumble through fx one morning when I was 13 (for the record, the episode was "The Body" and it stole my breath away). Also, compassion is highly overrated. As for Kill Bill, I'll take your word for it. And for some reason I can't remember, I too strongly dislike the month of April. Must be something about all that rain...

I can't count how grateful we all are to have you in our lives (in a non-stalker way that is). Have a Happy New Year and I wish you all the luck a girl from Rhode Island could muster for the upcomming year. I don't know if Serenity will come out in theaters around here (because not all do), but if it doesn't...I defidently see a road trip in my future--school and senior year be damned! Thanks again for everything:)
Joss, when you get your bionic arm can I have your old arm? I'll get a ton of money for it on Ebay (please supply a COA).

And talking of money I donated to the appeal but didn't know about that tax thing Simon. I'll do another one using that, every time I turn the TV on the scale of what happened seems to have doubled.
How could Joss write more in 2005? One word (Merriam-Webster's word of 2004)--blog.

I'd be there every day.

Of course, the downside might be no new JW movies and/or TV, which would be bad. Maybe even Evil.

So forget about the blogging, Joss. Write another movie, and three more TV shows, and direct them. Find twenty more brilliant auxiliary writers like Marti, Jane, Tim, David, David, Doug, Drew, Drew, etc. Thank you!

Your faithful scholar-flan,
Hi Kevin Smith? I thought his Daredevil comics were successful and popular? Oh well, I guess I'm just blinded by my love of his first four films.

A Happy New Year to everyone, including Mr. Whedon. Firefly and Fray were on my Christmas list this year but Santa didn't get me either of them - but I've since ordered both online. Fray arrived yesterday, and was very good.

May 2005 hold considerably more writing from you, Joss. And Wonder Woman? Hmm.
Oh a message from Joss , what I wouldn't give for a really world class psychiatrist.

Cheese popcorn is just wrong on so very many levels! more evil than Reavers or The First or The Circle Of The Black Thorn. More evil even than William The Bloody at his most poetic. It should be slain and expunged from the face of the planet. The only real popcorn is salted or buttered , or if it's a holiday, both .

Happy New Year to the best board on the web

And here's to lots of Joss on our screens and in book form in 2005 .
I vote Joss the best Thread Jacker and Post Magnet of the year. Okay, he's got other fine characteristics; I'm sure Kai and Co. can corroborate that. I just wasn't going to belabour them. Heh. Others have done so admirably.

I am heading to Oxfam office today for an extra donation. START PITCH Actually I'm long-time monthly supporter and urge others to consider that. It doesn't take much really. The organization is more about giving locals a foundation to develop their businesses and services and they do not have ulterior motives such as, well, let's keeep this clean. END PITCH Donate early, donate often to the southeast Asia disaster relief cause.

I thank you all for your tireless and informed commentary -- it's vastly more entertaining than what you can see and hear on TV -- and wish you all a serene New Year.
Drifter - That's who I donated to - Oxfam America. I had never visited their site before but it was linked to as a good choice for donations (along with the Red Cross) on my local news here in Massachusetts. I've donated to the Red Cross before but this Oxfam sounded like a better choice to me because they seem to work in that area of the world on a regular basis and I liked that a lot of what they did was give means to support yourself long term as to just giving some money (meaning they'll give animals such as goats, cattle and chickens to families which will provide long term food with the eggs and milk). I also liked that they were making up food packages geared to what people in that region eat. I remember there being a lot of attention given to the fact that people in Afghanistan didn't like the food that was being supplied to them through air drops. They weren't being picky, it was just so foreign to them and weird that they didn't want to eat it. I can understand that because there's things that people eat in some parts of the world that I couldn't imagine eating.

Just a heads up to anyone thinking of donating. Try and find out what percentage of the donation actually goes to the victims. I saw a news story that said 60% and under was really bad and anything over 70% was very good. OxFam gives 78% of their donation directly to the cause and the Red Cross was over 80% (can't remember the exact amount). The part that doesn't goes to their costs for paying employees and advertising.

Debw, I like cheese popcorn, espicially Smart Food brand - but I also enjoy a tub of buttered & salted popcorn too!
Gonnas I don't think there's any doubt about Kevin Smith's writing skills, it's more to do with the fact that he started one particular Spiderman mini series which never got finished. Apparently that annoyed a lot of fans.
(To pretend, momentarily, that the thread wasn't hijacked), I'm going to drop a coin of praise into the 'Astonishing X-Men' bucket, for it is, in fact, more than astonishing...

Thanks, Joss, for spending some of that writing time typing to us, here. And for all that writing time you do, well, in whatever form, 'cause, well, we win again.

And I'll jingle a few coins into the "Whedonesque rocks" bucket, hoping that no one notices I'm going to start sounding like everyone else. I'll risk it. This is a great site. Thanks to all the mods, and to the posters for making this site extraordinary.

I think I'm relieved to found out that Santa Claus is a lie. Doesn't he disembowl children?

I'm refraining from adding coins to flan. It doesn't taste as good with metal.

But coins in the general direction of the tsumami victims, also a good idea. It's good to know such a generous fandom. Or is that flandom?

Happy New Year to everyone!
What a great send-off for 2004. (And believe me, I'm ready to send this year off post-haste.)

A couple of questions and somewhat random observations:

-- Contributions: I contributed to the earthquake relief via CARE, but am ashamed to admit that I didn't check it out as thoroughly as you folks (I chose from a list at NPR.org). (Update: CARE's web site says that "Less than 10 percent of expended resources go toward administrative and fund-raising costs." So I guess it was a good choice as well.) Oxfam does wonderful work.

-- J.J. Abrams: Is he partially obscured by shadow, and always has a white Persian cat in his lap? Does he have an isolated, mysterious island? (Aha!) Does he look like Donald Pleasance or Charles Grey? (I refuse to take Telly Savalas seriously.)

Well, OK then.

-- Cheese Popcorn: Sounds like we need to do a good comparison of available options. While I love the white cheddar kind, the old yellow-gets-all-over-your-hands kind is particularly endearing -- but difficult to find. Cheetos used to have this kind of cheese popcorn, but it disappeared right before the election. (Coincidence? You be the judge!)

-- Bionic Arm: Not all they're cracked up to be. Like dishwashers, the control boards give out every 3 years.

-- Comics: While I'm in complete agreement with the reviewer about K. Smith (and J. Whedon's AST-XM (fun to pronounce it that way)), I think he's being hard on Bendis.

Yes, the man needs to step back a bit; but he continued to do some very good work on his DAREDEVIL and ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN series (yeah, I miss Gwen too); and THE PULSE has been great. POWERS is sort of up-and-down, but I think it'll end with some Oomph (and the letters page is fun, if profane beyond all belief). And while I mildly disliked the AVENGERS DISASSEMBLED (some dissassembly required) issues -- chaotic and noisy -- the Finale was nice, and the NEW AVENGERS series looks promising.

Oh, and some other comics people who should get attention for 2004:

- Ed Brubaker: GOTHAM CENTRAL, CATWOMAN (which he just left), SLEEPER. Wonderful stuff!

- Darwyn Cooke: DC: THE NEW FRONTIER was operatic. The JFK speech at the end was heart-breaking -- given the quality of politician (I will not say statesman) we currently have in office.

- Peter Tomasi and Peter Snejbjerg: The LIGHT BRIGADE mini-series was the damndest mix of old EC war comics and your usual Vertigo "faux Dante" supernatural bit -- but it works. Looks just great.

- And BLUE MONDAY, EX MACHINA, PLANETARY, and QUEEN AND COUNTRY. And God Bless THE GOON -- it makes me larf. Hard. Painfully hard, actually.

OK, it time for my meds. Bye!

[ edited by bookrats on 2004-12-31 21:32 ]
Damn me for being 25!! Can anyone paraphrase what Joss said? I don't go against God's commandments! ;~P
Happy New Year to everyone! And thanks for posting Joss. You do know we're all giddy when you do, right? Really you should see us...

Here's hoping 2005 is the year when 'Serenity' is *the* breakout movie. And may many more follow. As for Wonder Woman....eh, if Joss makes it, I'll watch it.

Oh and of course Santa Clause exists people, he's just misrepresented by our commercialized society. As I recall he does visit children, but eats them.....
"What do you mean Wonder Woman: Hmmmm....
We debate this at length and all you can give us is a Hmmmm??
But the New Year's present of writing more, YES!
Can it be novels? I know you said you can't write novels but I don't believe that. And if you use your bionic arm, you can do it quickly.
And good choice, BTW. A bionic leg would just be so lame. heh
(I'm prefectly PROPORTIONED

Ummm is that like Percy or something?

Happy New Year to Joss and all his minions!
prefectly PROPORTIONED

I saw that too. I'm guessing it's about the shorts and the blazer and the handing out of detentions for not having your socks pulled up to the elbow type thing that Joss is known for in acting circles. There may be spanking involved, but I went to varsity a year early so never actually found out (for which I am somewhat grateful).

Peace out, Whedonesquers. HNY.
And a happy new year to Joss, to everyone on Whedonesque, and to all. I also have sent money through Oxfam, a group that has been making the good fight for many years.

Joss- so, gonna bring Tara back in 05? Have at it! :-)

Astonishing X-Men got me back into comics after years away. And I am way too old, gosh darn it. Cannot wait for Serenity. Need more Buffy, need more Angel. Grr argh!

Best wishes to all, be safe tonight, and healthy all year.
Happy New Year to Joss and everyone at Whedonesque. May 2005 be everything you hope it to be.
A big warm hug to Joss and family and to all my fellow Whedonesquers. Happy New Year.
As the new year comes tumbling at us like a giant, heaving sack of meat, gristle and hoof-parts, making some kind of horrible screeching and staring at us with its one bloodsoaked eyeball, ...

Is anyone else get hungry??? Hmm, maybe it's just me.

... I'd like to share a little of that with you all, unless you are under the age of eleven or between the ages of twenty four and twenty six.

Your talking actual phsyical age, right? Cause mentally, there might be a few issues.

(May contain peanuts.)

Hungry again, I'll bring the jelly and marshmallows. Or were you talking about Snoopy and Woodstock?

Flans:

Hehe, he said flans.

And they retain the shape of the ramekin when you turn them over, like jello does.

And some of us jiggle like jello as well. I want to be strawberry.

Happiness: Nothing is more wonderful than the sight of your own baby in your arms. And nothing is more annoying than people who tell you that.

Speaking of babies, another annoying thing, have you heard anything about Amy and hers. She was due around Dec. I'm just curious about how mommy, daddy, and baby are and hope they are happy and healthy.

Kill Bill: Long.

Agree by 1/2.

Cheese popcorn: Still important.

Yes but Carmel popcorn even more important. **stomach now growling, grr argh**

Serenity: uhh... nothing comes to mind. Doesn't it mean, like, peacefulness or something?

Actually I thought it was a brand of adult diapers.

April: Amazingly enough, actually IS the cruelest month.

Ok just because I was born in that month, doesn't mean it's the cruelest month .... ok, well maybe it does.

I'm not perfect (I'm prefectly PROPORTIONED, which is where that confusion comes in).

Oh, ok that explains it and here I thought you were perfectly PARTITIONED. **smacks self in forehead with heel of hand** (for some strange reason I'm now craving a veggie drink and I don't know why)

And maybe have some protien shakes, ...

Again with the food, man I'm starting to salivate. **Stalking off to the kitchen to forge.**

Wonder Woman: Hmmmm....

Wouldn't that be your wife. :)

Thank you all for a great year made greater by your community.

No thank you for sharing so much your internal musings that seep from your brain emmissions and over flow out through your fingerstips and onto screen and paper. Live long and prosper proportionally.

Seaonal Greetings to all and to all a good night. ;)
It's midnight in The Netherlands. Bye bye, 2004. Hello 2005.
Gelukkig nieuwjaar, Caroline !

Still 4.5 hrs to go here in Toronto. (Can't say Canada since it's 5.5 time zones wide -- and feels like it some times.)
Happy new year from Scotland all :)
This guy gives Liefeld a break 'cause it's Christmas, but bad-mouths the Bendis? Oy!
Happy New Year, and many more!
Happy New Year to Joss and everyone at Whedonesque. May 2005 be some kind of magic.
Happy New year everyone!
Happy New Year 2005 to all from the NYC Metro Area.

Thanks for the message Joss. I really just discovered your work in 2004 and have been devouring it all year. I look forward to what 2005 will bring.
Happy New Year Joss and all the other posters on this ever excellent site.

2004 ended on a sad note in Sweden as well, far to many holiday travellers will never return from Thailand.

Here's to a better 2005 with a lot of new Joss written material to enjoy.

Kill Bill : Long
Not compared to one of the regular Buffy marathons that takes place at my house.

WonderWoman : Hmmmm....
Thats just cruel, but I can take that, I will start to cry when the answer is yes though.

Happy New Year from France everyone !
(and to Joss : you're the first person to make me so happy and laugh this much this year (well, you and the lot of alcohol I drank last night) : I love you ! By the way you're a God. (but I think you know that by now).
Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck ( You)
Best Holiday Greeting Ever.

And I've wondered what the remains of Joss Whedon think of Kill Bill for quite a while. that whole kick-ass, subversive feminist genre-busting love note to B movies stuff and all.

<3!
Happy New Year all! Gelukkig Nieuwjaar (yes originally dutch too). 2005. This will be THE year! In many ways! Don't ask. Just trust him who knows.....(ominous background music).

(Hey I never said I was that 'him')

"And I've wondered what the remains of Joss Whedon think of Kill Bill for quite a while. that whole kick-ass, subversive feminist genre-busting love note to B movies stuff and all. "

And to tell you the truth, I'm still kinda wondering!
I'd like to reiterate the sentiments expressed by my fellow Whedonesquers (we ought to come up with an official moniker).
-Thanks to the mods for all the wonderful work you guys do.
-Thanks to all of you for keeping the discussions mature and thought-provoking.
-AND thanks to Mnemosyne and Zeus's lost master-of-a-storyteller son, Joss Whedon, who continuously makes all this possible.
May this year bring peace to the world and to everyone here.
... Since Gifted has yet to be published in the UK, I went ahead and bought the first Ultimate X-men book - I thought I should probably read at least one other comic so I have something to compare it with...

Actually, the first AXM TPB was published over here early December. I think it was either the first or second Thursday of the month.
Really? All the websites I've checked have pre-orders for Jan or Feb...
Grounded, it's been in my local comic book shop in Belfast for the last couple of weeks.
wow that was kool Joss thanx man...love and peace from Australia home of the mighty Tim Tam
Grounded, it's been in my local comic book shop in Belfast for the last couple of weeks.

There is no comic book where I live...
Joss I hope that you had a happy holiday season w/ your family, and didn't work to hard. ;) I also hope that everything goes your way in the new year.

Best Wishes,
Kellie
"Well, the great thing about nobody posting on comic book threads ..."

Well, I guess this solves the problem of nobody posting to a comic book thread, huh.

:)
"Well, I guess this solves the problem of nobody posting to a comic book thread, huh."

And I'm a huge comic book geek....and yet I too did not post in many comic threads here....I hang my head in shame. I must be beat......flogged.....(preferably by a girl who looks and dresses like Faith!)
I want a bionic arm now too, but why get one when you can have two Joss? I'll be like Jax in Mortal Kombat: Annialation, (You know), the only highlight in any crappy movie that was badly written. I'd definately use them to smash the WB's executives' brains all over the exectutive's room wall. Yes, I have thought about it.
Happy New Year to everyone and Joss' remains! Thank you, Joss - thank you.
Awesome! Joss' writing is like a fix while I am at work and away from my DVDs! :)

I am 25, and I read it. Damn it. You think there will be repercussions???? ;)
Wonder Woman: Hmmmm....

DC All-Star Wonder Woman? They got Frank Miller back for Batman.
I have never posted on this site before, am total newbie! So I know I am posting in the wrong place, but I just wanted somewhere I could do a little begging... I have been having a recurring dream that rather than a Buffy/Angel film/tv, why not look more into the lives of Darla, Drusilla and Spike after Angel's curse. Their lives until they go their separate ways. I would love to see something like that. All the episodes with flashbacks are excellent viewing.

I hate to beg, but I am! Please make it so...
Buffybot - some of the BBC online comics do exactly that. None are Joss-written but some do a fair job of a type of backstory. Some do have writers like JE or DP so are usually well done. The world's fair story is interesting. Also, welcome to the most reasonable site around. The mods only disembowel OT posters occasionally (just joking!)
Hey Catalyst2, thanx for your reply! I will definately check out the BBC site. Especially seeing as the BBC is closing down it's cult section soon... very rude! But really my eyes just want the satisfaction of seeing more James Marsters ;o)
Buffybot - check out the cover on the new BtVS book on the 'Spark and Burn' thread if JM is what you are looking for!

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