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January 15 2005

BtVS star to join Veronica Mars? It's hardly likely to be SMG, but rumour has it that it might be Alyson Hannigan.

This is just rumour and has not been officially confirmed.

(For those joining the thread, I changed the wording of my post after the initial comments had been posted, at which time the rumour about AH hadn't been mentioned.)

When I saw your headline, I first thought of Clem.

More likely to be Alyson Hannigan I would reckon.
I read this as well but Kristin has talked about alot of shows besides Buffy, Tru, there's Alias, Charmed, the OC, and many others. So I thought it might be a bit premature to post it cause no where does she directly say where we could have seen this person and from what show.
"there's Alias, Charmed, the OC"

^^I think its btvs is a good guess since all of these shows are still running. I don't think someone would leave a show they are already on to be on a different one.

[ edited by MySerenity on 2005-01-15 17:57 ]
I thought it might be a bit premature to post it cause no where does she directly say where we could have seen this person and from what show.

I did wonder about this myself, and knowing absolutely nothing at all about Kristin or 'Veronica Mars' I have no real frame of reference. However, on a couple of other posting boards everyone seems convinced it will be someone from BtVS. I know that means absolutely nothing, but I guess it's fun to speculate.
It could also be Dark Angel, Roswell, Angel, Wonderfalls, or Firefly even, there are a lot of shows Kristin has talked about over the past few years. And actually castmembers do leave one show to go to another quite often in Hollywood.

[ edited by RavenU on 2005-01-15 18:04 ]
Simon, I thought Alyson had already signed on to the Jennifer Love Hewitt sitcom pilot. We discussed it here a few days ago.
If someone from BTVS joins the cast, I'll definately watch with no question eheh. Hm...they've talked about this persons series more than any other show....veddy(No, not a typo lol) interesting.
Although if money had to be placed - I think Eliza might be the best contender for the clues that are given. She's well known, and 'Watch with Kristin' has only been around for a couple of years - during the Buffy days Kristin was called Wanda (Don't ask - I have no idea) on eonline. Kristin did have a big jones for Tru so much so that she even played a courpse on the show once. So if we are going to speculate that is where I would place the bet right now. But then Kristin tends to overboard a lot of stuff - so it maybe someone else completely. Her perception of huge and well known may be different from mine.
Just the phrasing of "her show" I think makes it likely that it is someone seen as the star of (whatever) show. Therefore I would think Emma Caulfield or Eliza Dushku as unlikely prospects. We will probably find that it is Nicolette Sheridan!

What? - its a cult hit - I just don't know what cult!
Over the years, we've talked about her series more than any other show

I'm sure this is in reference to Buffy, after all Alias, The OC, or Tru Calling are all fairly recent shows, and most of them, like MySerenity says, are still running. Then again it could be Katie Holmes from Dawson's Creek.
I really think it's someone from Buffy or The Whedonverse. What other fans would "piddle a little"!
"there's Alias, Charmed, the OC"

^^I think its btvs is a good guess since all of these shows are still running. I don't think someone would leave a show they are already on to be on a different one.


They would if it would mean an upgrade from playing a supporting character on the first show to main character on the other. Recent examples being Marcia Cross (Everwood -> Desperate Housewives) and Adam Brody (Gilmore Girls -> The O.C.), and many others I'm sure.
Yeah, the exact wording is "Over the years, we've talked about her series more than any other show," and I've been reading Kristen for years and "Buffy" is the series they've talked about more than any other show, to the point that some weeks she had to apologize that the "Buffy" spoilers were taking up all of her chats.
oops

[ edited by charisma on 2005-01-15 19:40 ]
Sydney Tamiia Poitier has always been on the show.
The show Kristin's talked about "more than any other?" It's got to be BtVS. Not even AtS meets this description, much less any of the others, like the OC, etc.

So - I'd say no way it's SMG, and Alyson is already signed up for a show. Maybe Michelle T? Is the sister older or younger than Logan? If younger, pretty much has to be Michelle. If older, could be Emma or Eliza or Charisma, possibly Mercedes.

I am hoping for Michelle.
She says "it will be magical". Maybe Amber Benson?
Why couldn't it be Logan's brother, Nick Brendon?
Biff, that's a good one too. Amber. Here's the full quote from Kristen:

Don't hate me but I'm also under strict (death threat) orders. However, I can tell you that this well-known actress is playing Logan's sister and is huge in this little world we like to call "Watch with Kristin." Over the years, we've talked about her series more than any other show. And when you fans of this cult hit find out, you're going to piddle a little. Promise.

"More than any other show:" Has to be BtVS, to me. The part about the "well known actress. . . is huge in this little world . . ." Huge. Some of the actress I listed before, I'm not sure Kristen would describe as "huge" in her little world.

Uhm . . . I suppose, assuming SMG and AH are out, Eliza is the one I'd think of as the "hugest" that might cause BtVS fans to "piddle a little." Though I'm so Buffy-starved I'd probably piddle for any one of them.
Logan's sister (named Trina) is older than he, and lives away from home. I like the Amber Benson idea, and I think Emma Caufield is the other Buffy B-list possibility. Either would be exciting on tv at all, but on Veronica Mars? It may just RHOCK!

I'm a big fan of the show already, and another character will just be more mysterious plot development goodnesses.
I'm thinking its SMG, Eliza Dushku, or Charisma Carpenter. I hope its CC. Veronica Mars is an excellent show and I highly recommend it.
zandra - I watched the show last week, and we learned that Logan has a sister. He doesn't have a brother. Though I'd be OK with Nick in drag :).
I doubt SMG would go back to tv so soon. Amber would be awsome. I also think it could be CC since she's been circulating on different shows (Charmed and she was supposed to be on LAX before it got the boot). It would be nice to see Emma at a different role too. Here's a name that hasn't been mentioned yet--what about Mercedes?
bogu - You must have read that info elsewhere (?), about the sis being older (I don't remember it being said on the show) but it does make sense, because we haven't seen sissy around. I love Veronica Mars also. I've been watching every week and been reading the reviews at TV Tome and at The Soulful Spike Society and really getting into it. (I put the URLs below for anyone interested - sorry, I don't know how to make a link in the comments.)

Yes, the additions of a BtVS cast member would RHOCK!! Well said!
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VM reviews at:

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ReviewGuide/showid-24272/Veronica_Mars/

http://www.soulfulspike.com/veronicamars.htm
The "huge" might preclude Amber, but one can hope. The "magical" remark could allude to Charisma's turn on Charmed, too.

I've seen a couple of Veronica Mars episodes and have liked it pretty well, it's not yet at the point that I don't forget to watch it. Someone from the 'verse would certainly jog my memory.
I have to hope its Eliza. Veronica Mars is a great show, but it would be a better show with Eliza in the mix. People who have looked at my other posts know I'm obsessed with her! LOL
I think the magical comment is the key here, and I do not think it will end up being CC largely because of her age. I would therefore consider either Amber (which would be just utterly great) or Michelle Trachtenberg (who did a short turn n Six Feet Under), but the magical part also makes me wonder if they are referring to Charmed, raising the possibility it may be Shannon Doherty.
Somehow Emma Caulfield seems to fit into the equation that is Veronica Mars. Visually, perhaps.
Caroline, I was just thinking the same thing about Emma Caulfield. I think it is a visual thing - Emma's got a similar (nicely) strong-jawed face to the actress who plays Veronica Mars.
Dana5140, Shannon Doherty is actually a very possible candidate now that I think about it. Plus, North Shore just aired their finale episode so the possibility of her is defidently an option. I don't think she would fit the role as well as someone like Emma would.
I highly doubt it would be SMG. Why would she leave a show she starred in to take a supporting role in another series, especially when her movie career seems to be taking off.
Thanks, MySerenity. I'd be happy for any Buffy alum to get the role, and enthralled if it were Amber Benson. But much as I like Emma I am not sure she is a big enough name to cause huge joy nor the kind of comments made on that website. I am now leaning more toward SD, whom I do not much care for. We shall see on Wednesday, I guess.
Both Emma and Amber look like they could be the character's sister, too. I would have a tough time watching the show with SD. Sadly, I'd agree that she seems a likely possibility.
But - though SD sounds like a likely possibility for the role, "Charmed" does not sound like a likely possibility for the show that Kristen has "talked about the most." So if she's not talking about "Charmed," then she can't be talking about SD.

I agree Emma doesn't fit the comments Kristen made. If you exclude SMG and AH (and I think you can) that leaves Eliza, and possibly Charisma. As much as I like all the others, especially Amber, I don't think any of the others fit into the description of "huge," etc. Well - no use racking my brain. It'll just get worn out.
Speaking of Veronica Mars, I suddenly got the inclination to begin watching it. I've been dipping in and out of the occasional episode of the past few weeks, but I've never actually been gripped by it. The concept wasn't particularly original and I didn't find any of the cast particularly appealing, but the little I saw of 1x12 turned me around. I've since watched the first three episodes, and I'm enjoying it.

I'd be happy with anyone from BtVS joining up with the cast. Although I'd rather it weren't Charisma Carpenter.
I can't think it's Shannon Doherty. She's too old to be Logan's sister and I don't think Kristin would think she'd generate huge interest with cult show fans. Let's think positive. At least we know it's not Paris Hilton. I hope it's ED, having learned her lesson about shows with weak writing staffs.
Sounds like its Amber to me.
dreamlogic, I hope you aren't refering to the TC writing staff, which included our very own ME writer Douglas Petrie. I know lots of people hated that show, but I thought it was decent considering other shows circulating cable. Plus, DAvid Solomon and David Grossman directed a few episodes and you can't go wrong with those two.

I've never seen Veronica Mars, so I don't know the characters, but its very possible SD is too old for the part. I doubt its going to be AH. I think at this point I'm with Willowy leaning on Amber.
Have to say I think the headline of this post is more than a little misleading. I agree there's a more than decent chance the show mentioned is BtVS, but it's far from sure, while this post already shows it as fact. Come on now... And given the fact that SMG recently starred in a very succesful movie, and has several others in her schedule I think it's less than likely to be her. Just a thought.

And while I would love to see any Buffy actor again, the idea of Eliza playing second fiddle to what's a bit of a Buffy clone.....eh, can't say I like it much.
Have to say I think the headline of this post is more than a little misleading. I agree there's a more than decent chance the show mentioned is BtVS, but it's far from sure, while this post already shows it as fact. Come on now... And given the fact that SMG recently starred in a very succesful movie, and has several others in her schedule I think it's less than likely to be her. Just a thought.

To be honest I thought my post made it clear that it is just a rumour, which I wouldn't consider to be a suggestion that it's a "fact". In terms of SMG I state quite clearly, "It's hardly likely to be SMG." However, if it is considered to be misleading I am more than happy to change it.
Haven't seen the show yet, might try to get my hands on the pilot at some point. Does anyone know when it's coming to the UK?

I'd imagine it's probably Charisma or Eliza (and FtVS would die again).

I've been reading Kristen(earlier Wanda)'s column for a few years now, and while she has spent a lot of time talking about Buffy she has talked quite a bit about series that I really can't stand a lot as well (Dawson's Creek, Sex & The City, Seventh Heaven to name a few). Friends used to always get quite a bit of space too, but they're probably too old for the role.

I don't see the title as misleading, there's a question-mark, and as you say, you state it's hardly likely to be SMG.

[ edited by Ghost Spike on 2005-01-16 01:42 ]
Everyone's talking about this as if it'll be a new series regular--but as I understand it, it will just be a guest role. Hopefully recurring, but not regular.

With that taken into account, it could be AH! Even if it's a recurring role, she might be able to fit it around the shooting for her new show (if that one even gets picked up) because sitcoms usually don't take the time to shoot that dramas do.

Here's hoping!
Telltale, the article says:

"We're announcing a new celebrity castmember next week!" K.B. revealed of Veronica Mars. So I took that to mean a regular. Though I guess it is a bit ambiguous . . . suggests at least recurring, though, to me.

Dashboard, I think your title and description is just fine.
Ed- I noted that it could as well be Charmed they were referring to- the hint wqas in the use of the word "magical." Time will tell, and I would also not rule out MT.
Apparently it's definitely going to be Alyson Hannigan.
How do you know Melisande? Where'd you get the skinny?
Twop has posted it

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3118681&st=315

[ edited by garda39 on 2005-01-16 02:44 ]

[ edited by garda39 on 2005-01-16 02:49 ]
Wow then! Yep, looks like!

Good to see Aly getting the work on a good show. Any chance Alexis will play her boyfriend/husband?

A girl can dream...
Well crap, now I have to catch up on all the episodes. On the plus side, there's another 12 hours or so free on Tivo ...
Wow, I hope it really is AH! Even if it's a recurring role, that would be a much better career move than taking second billing on a Jennifer Love Hewitt sitcom.

It's funny, there's a character on Veronica Mars that's kind of Willowy--a quirky girl who's also a computer wiz (aptly named "Mac").

Wow, I can't wait!
MySerenity, I did mean TC. I saw an episode by Doug Petrie and didn't enjoy it more than the others I'd seen. It's all subjective, of course, and what ends up on the screen is hardly all up to the writer.

AH on VM! I hope this is true.
I've changed my post to incorporate the possibility that it might be Alyson Hannigan. I've tried to make it clear that it is still just a rumour and nothing has been officially announced.
AH would be great.
Now, why would they be keeping that a secret? Seems like they'd want to announce that as soon as they cast her so that they could build the audience.
Alyson has been more interest in doing comedies instead of dramas, so I don't think it is her. If you look at the clues I still would put my money on Eliza Dushku. There hasn't been a week go by in almost the past 2 years where Kristin has not mentioned in some way shape or form Tru Calling. Also another clue might be the fact that she specifically said 'Watch with Kristin', which has technically only been around for 2-3 years, before that she was 'Watch with Wanda' and she has mentioned the difference before when giving hints to things. Eliza is more well-known than Alyson and in Kristin's world she's huge. So if it is someone from the verse I think it will be Eliza. Also if you look at Kristen Bell and Eliza there's a believible resemblance.

[ edited by RavenU on 2005-01-16 05:16 ]
But RavenU, it was posted on TWoP as the real deal, and the poster had seen the dailies...am I just being gullible?
AH makes no sense, what with her working on the pilot with JLH, Ed O'Neill and Christine Baranski. Hm, well, we shall see.
The poster on TWoP who posted the information has been right many times before, so I believe her.
" Also if you look at Kristen Bell and Eliza there's a believible resemblance."

Since when has believible resemblance meant anything in TV.
The thing that keeps throwing me off that it's not a verse person is what Kristen Bell said, "We're announcing a new celebrity castmember next week!" K.B. revealed of Veronica Mars. "Someone that's been working on our show that we're thrilled to have.", since this person has already been working on their show you would think that more than TWoP would have said something by now. I'm not saying that AH may guest star on VM but it would seem this is a more permanent character, I don't think AH would commit to a pilot and then commit to a series already in progress and no one but TWoP knowing about it.
I believe the casting news. I wasn't expecting Alyson Hannigan either, but the fact that she was working on a pilot (for a show which may not even get picked up at all), doesn't really preclude her getting a guest-star role on VM. Also, Veronica Mars has a ton of regular/recurring cast members already. I doubt Logan's sister will be around on a permanent basis.

[ edited by areacode212 on 2005-01-16 06:06 ]
Isnt In the Game suppose to air in March?? I was under the impression that the network as given it a go and will air it starting March but I think i may have read that wrong.
Hmm, yeah, it does look like it will be airing in March. My bad. Still, shooting on In the Game doesn't begin until Tuesday (according to TVTome), and she may be able to juggle both that role, and the occassional VM appearance.
in 20/20 hindsight, this Kristin blurb from a recent column seems prophetic. The question is about Veronica Mars, and the first thing Kristin mentions is AH....

From jarrod: First off, going on two years now, how much do you miss Buffy? And I was just wondering how much does Veronica Mars fill the void of such a smartly written supernatural adolescent show?

Answer:
Sooo much! And so glad to see Alyson Hannigan is coming back to TV. (She's signed on to a Jennifer Love Hewitt on ABC called In the Game, in which Jennifer will play a reporter on a sports TV show. As for Veronica Mars, I actually, um, well, um, don't hate me but I actually loved this week's episode so much, I thought it was better than Alias, 24 or Desperate Housewives. Sooo good.

This is very gossipy of me to report, but after Tom Lenk's show last week with Emma Caulfield I overheard something. Emma was talking with some people (one of whom was James Leary) and she said that she was very close to a new job, but she didn't to jinx herself and talk about it much.

Could be....could be not.
Not saying that Emma isn't getting a new job but hasn't the filming already being done for the first appearance of this character
The thing about Alyson is she's signed on for a midseason replacement sitcom, not a pilot. It's already been picked up by ABC for six episode. It's being recast (much like Willow in the original Buffy pilot). It's schedule to start airing in the spring.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/gofuton.cgi?action=showatch&id=in_the_game

If the reports are true that Alyson is already filming VM, then it can't be that top secret so maybe Kristin is making it a big secret to have the scoop while checking on what the deal is with Alyson's other show. This all seems rather strange.
Kudos to the person at the very start of this thread for guessing that it was Alyson. *ahem*. Don't suppose any of my fellow UK posters know if Veronica Mars has been picked up? I can see LivingTV or E4 airing it.
Haven't heard anything about Veronica Mars being aired over here yet Simon. I'm still annoyed about E4's decision to hold airing Lost back until later in the year. At least they are still showing Point Pleasant in a week or so.

Alyson on Veronica Mars huh? Could be interesting, especially as i've heard a lot of good things about the show already. All these high profile cult show actors switching series could get confusing though. What with Ben Browder joining Stargate it's going to be hard to recognise what cult show you are watching pretty soon! ;)
E4 are holding back Lost, what a very strange decision, you'd think they'd air the show that pretty much has a guarenteed second season, than the show that hasn't even aired in the US yet and could just as easilly be a flop as it could be a hit.
Telltale, the article says:

"We're announcing a new celebrity castmember next week!" K.B. revealed of Veronica Mars. So I took that to mean a regular. Though I guess it is a bit ambiguous . . . suggests at least recurring, though, to me.


I thought I read the rumor somewhere else where the role was referred to as a guest role, but I can't recall where that was.

(Of course, now that it really might be AH, I take everything back. It has to be a regular part! Didn't know about the exact state of 'In the Game' either, thanks guys.)

As to why it is being kept a secret--VM is a show about mysteries, so I think they're building on that in a metatextual kind of way.
Ah, here it is, actually:

"Kristen hints that a really cool guest star will be coming up on the series, but the show's publicist informed her that the announcement won't come until later this month."

( http://www.neptunesite.com/bellinterview2.htm , about halfway down)

That probably refers to this role.
A few salient points. One thing avout VM is that initially at least it had problems drawing an audience, even though many critics liked it. Also, it was regularly compared to BTVS. Therefore, it seems likely that one way to help build a faithful audience might be to trade on that comparison and one way to do that would be to use a Buffy alumni. But as I read over these reports on the various sites, what I see is simply rumor being repeated over and over, with no provenance or proof. I would love to see AH have this job, but the more I think about it, the less likely it seems (and I will happily eat my words). The more I think it would be ED, mainly because she is a person who gets a lot of current press and is a hot commodity who has not tried to build a movie career. Yet. MT is making movies, SMG is making movies and AB is writing/directing movies. AH has her pilot working, and with shooting to start this week, I can't see her doing the VM as well. So, maybe EC? But ED seems more likely. Unless they are looking at a less common Buffy alum, a al Claire Kramer or similar?
TWoP seems to have some problems at the moment, but the poster that was quoted earlier in the thread seemed very certain that it was AH.
All the names mentioned so far could be possibilities which is sad because they are not working as much as we would like them to.
I have received an email from someone called 'wyk'. I don't know who this is, but he/she asked me to post this message... I know that it's moving somewhat outside the remit of this site and advertising a show that has nothing particularly to do with Joss Whedon, but I would feel guity if I just ignored it.

Hi,

As a huge fan of Buffy and Veronica Mars, I'm thrilled that AH will be on Veronica Mars.

I don't have an account at whedonesque, so I was wondering if you could post this information for me.

They are re-airing the VM pilot this Tuesday, so for anyone who hasn't seen the show, it's the perfect opportunity to do so. According to Kristin, UPN won't announce the information until Wednesday, which means that any Buffy fans who want to catch the show for the first time would have missed the re-aired pilot. Kristin thinks VM is as good as Buffy and Alias. She even said that last week's episode of VM was better than Alias, 24, or Desperate Housewives.

Fabrisse, the TWoPer who posted that it is definitely AH, has a sister who works on the show so his information is pretty reliable.

For those of you familiar with TWoP, Couch Baron, who did the Buffy recaps, is also doing the VM recaps. He absolutely adores the show. He has given 8 out of the 12 episodes a grade of A- or better, which according to his own words is "frankly unbelievable."

While the show has great critical acclaim, the ratings are terrible. The greatest fear us VM fans have is that this show will go the way of Firefly, Wonderfalls, Freaks and Geeks, Cupid, etc.

E4 are holding back Lost, what a very strange decision, you'd think they'd air the show that pretty much has a guarenteed second season, than the show that hasn't even aired in the US yet and could just as easilly be a flop as it could be a hit. - Ghost Spike

Its a fairly bizare decision, Channel 4, the parent company, actually bought Lost and Desperate Housewives back before either premiered in the states (an unusual move) with the intention of premiering Lost on E4 in January, instead their January lineup will be Smallville(monday at 9), The OC(Tuesday at 9), Pointe Pleasent(Wed at 9), ER(Thursday at 9) and Wife Swap(Friday at 9), with Freinds repeats airing 8 to 9 every day, and reality dating shows airing every day at 10 (other slots filled with repeats and previews of C4 shows). Essentially PP is the only new show in that prime time line up, so clearly the decision has been made to air PP instead of Lost.

The question is why? Hopefully its a mark of PP's quality, but one must remember that their is no real rush to air Lost, asside from those on the internet, no one will have heard of the show until they decide to premier it. Traditionally the Januray to June schedule has had the best rated shows amongst the imports, as that is the earliest time an import can be shown in a continuous run (an thus anything successfull will be moved to this schedule). This of course has the tendancy to leave the June to December schedule in bad shape, and typically filled with shows that are already cancelled in America, or repeats. I think E4 are trying to break that system by airing Lost in June, arround that time Big Brother will start on c4, with live showings on E4 which can serve to shore up ratings for the first few months and they will have a show that can carry foward that audiance into the autumn (fall)
Hm, that is interesting. But, if Fabrisse has a sister who works for the show and that sister is sending information about the show to a rumor site, I am thinking the sister will not be working on that show for very long. Producers hate their secrets getting out before they want them to, and take measures to make sure- I've an aunt who works for NYPD Blue and she never tells me anything about their plans even though I am not a real fan of the show, you know?

Well, we shall all find out soon enough, eh? :-)
Hun....what...? Might as well add my two cents worth. First, love reading Kristin's column. She offers good insight in these matters. But, and I say this with respect, she's only on target 50% of the time. Good research in this thread, but I noticed several links went back to the original article. Hmmm...Anyhoo, I hope it is Alyson. Or Emma....or Eliza. I can dream too.
Veronica Mars is my favorite new show, I like it far better than Lost or Desperate Housewives. So, Buffy alum goodness is a terrific bonus present.
For those of us who don't know the rules for the home-version, how/where will the announcement be made? Kristin's column?

[ edited by Parrot on 2005-01-17 16:04 ]

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