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May 03 2005

Serenity Convention in LA in December 2005. From the people bringing you the Angel Booster Bash this July, comes the Serenity Flanvention. Guests announced so far: Adam Baldwin, Jewel Staite, Ron Glass, Summer Glau, Morena Baccarin and Sean Maher. Tickets on sale May 31st.

In other news the Angel Booster Bash has added more limited photo ops for it's event in July. Starting with the almost sold out and popular Mercedes-Benz photo op, they have added Lindsey-Darla, Wesley-Lilah, and now Lorne-Groo. Check out the Booster Bash with now 13 confirmed guest including Alexis Denisof's only US appearance and a special concert performance by Christian Kane and his band Kane (concert tickets availible to the public, convention attendees get a discount on those tickets).

UPDATE They have also added 2 more guest to the line-up bringing it up to 15, with the addition of signing guest Jason Carter and Scott Schwartz.

Also the Booster Bash charity auction will be open to the public (for a small admitance fee) and they have put up a couple items they have had donated. Including a signed vamp mask worn by David Boreanaz, and a Angel 100th episode shooting script signed by a few of the actors.

Will they be charging an arm and a leg for this, too?
Actually compared to the other Buffy/Angel only conventions they are pretty reasonable, especailly since they have a guest list of 13 guest and only 500 total attendees.
I remember the days of PBP. 75 bucks. No guarantees, but it was always an event to remember.

That was back when I was walking 20 miles to school, uphill, both ways.
A convention is a big, three day, gee-it-cost-alot to hire all these actors and pay for the venue event.
This looks fantastic. I know where I will be in December. Great job Booster Events!!!! Now please add a cast photo op!!!
Depending on the price, we might swing by. Not sure it can beat having them all together at the Comicon, but I'm sure it'll be very cool.

Speaking of...I hope Joss makes another appearance this year in San Diego. Would be perfect timing...
Well, Joss is up for a few Eisner awards at Comic-Con. I hope he will pick one up.
As for the big Serenity con in December, I hope it's as big as the Angel/Buffy shindig in July. It looks like Serenity will be the next big thing now that the Star Wars saga and Stark Trek TV shows are winding down
Lovely. And in my birthday week too. 'Course, whereas in the past I've had the time but not the cash to attend such events, this winter I'll probably have the money but no free weekend . . . still and all, I may well buy the tix anyhow, if only for the thought that I might get to sit next to Morena. And, given that there's often a concert with these things, might we expect a singsong from Jewel?
I wanna go! I'll have to see if I can swing it. :^)
Hell I may buy a ticket for the chance to meet some of YOU much less the BDH's.
So I'm guessing anywhere between 200 and 300 dollars for a weekend pass ticket?

Hey Uk'ers. 5 quid. that's all it takes to meet me. 5 quid. Free cup of coffee and a Malboro Light if you smoke or a KitKat if you dont. Plus at no extra cost, I'll show you a pic of me and Clare Kramer.

If that doesn't tempt you, then you obviously have a lot of sense and should perhaps think about Serenity 2 in November which is run by the StarFury lot. I've read a couple of fan reports from the one held last weekend and it seemed like an absolute hoot.
Another one? I swear, I have a job to pay rent, utilities, buy food and go to conventions.
Nice, SNT -- my Bday is 17th Dec
Allyson I agree with you...that is alot of pennies!! But I might have to go.....it seems to good to pass up, and a cast photo op would be lovely =)
Well hey, zg, that's my birthday too. We must be, like, soulmates or something . . . of course, you probably don't have that 95% biorhythmic compatibility with Amber Benson thing going on (as discussed here), but you can still be my friend. :)
I really don't mind the price. I mean you are getting great value at these shows. Limited attendance, assigned seating and a great roster of guests. The access is great. Plus, I can't wait to get photo ops and autographs. Also, I plan to take 9000 photos!
I agree with munn75. I think it's a pretty good value considering they keep the event small enough for people to actually get to interact with the guests and really enjoy it. I've got to find a way to go to this event. I'm going to the Angel Booster Bash in July and I can't wait for that. Now, what can I sell to go to the Serenity event?...
I am so there!!
Silly question, what charity is the auction benefiting?
The Angel Food Drive which benefits the LA Food Bank.
Oh, duh, I worked on AFD just didn't know they were planning to continue after the check presentation in Los Angeles. When I clicked on the auctions link I didn't see any mention of the charity.
This is the last auction for the Angel Food Drive - they want to go out with a major bang.
Those of in the midwest are holding are breath for GenCon in August...
The timing of this could be interesting - Serenity will have been out for long enough for Universal to see how it performs. With so many of the cast there, could it be time for Joss to announce the greenlighting of "Serenity 2: Inara's story" (or what ever it will be called)?
Um, yeah. I don't know what quid even are, Simon, but a mere five of them, for the likes of you, sounds like a bargain. I've got my checkbook at the ready...just need to know where to send the scratch. Please advise.

[ edited by barest_smidgen on 2005-05-04 05:44 ]
Will they be charging an arm and a leg for this, too?
Huh? Considering all the guests they have lined up at the con in July and the nice hotel, I see that it's reasonably priced.

Looking forward to attending both cons!
It really sucks being broke and stuck in the middle of nowhere. :(

I'm glad the great people here (who get to go to these things) share their experiences. It's almost like being there. *almost*
Huh? Considering all the guests they have lined up at the con in July and the nice hotel, I see that it's reasonably priced.

I understand what you're saying. Like I said above, I remember the PBPs, which cost 75 bucks and had as many actors/producers come through the doors as this.

But there was never a guarantee, a promise that they would all come. So it was a risk. There's no risk with this.

It depends on what you're looking for. I'm never looking for autographs and photo ops, so it isn't worth it for me. For me, it's about hanging out with other fans.

The best friends (my family, really) came out of fandom, all those impromptu dinners and such.

W&HAR was at the same hotel, and cost $100.00.

This is sort of like a cruise. When you put your money down, you're also paying for your dinners and drinks, making it all inclusive. So I'm not saying they're gouging at all. You're getting what you pay for, completely.

But the hotel costs them nothing. When you stay there, get your rooms, the conference spaces are free. Lighting and sound cost money, but the physical space is nothing. And if they sell out their block, there's even more negotiation room to get stuff cheaper.

Hotel food and A/V costs a fortune, though. I've had an open bar go to 7k in four hours.

It's two different philosophies, I think. For me, I want to keep prices as low as possible so more fans can afford it. Fans with cash to burn will go to the places with guaranteed photo ops and autographs. Fans who scrape it together and quad up in the hotel, eating at McDonald's or bringing a cooler with lunches just so they can hang out together and be thrilled with a handful of surprise guests are my people.

One isn't better than the other when weighed side by side, they're just different. One is just better for me, personally.
Allyson wrote:
I understand what you're saying. Like I said above, I remember the PBPs, which cost 75 bucks and had as many actors/producers come through the doors as this.
But there was never a guarantee, a promise that they would all come. So it was a risk. There's no risk with this.


There is always a risk with any event, that something will happen and some guest may have to pull out. The major difference is they have a contract and are paid some kind of compensation for the convention, not to mention the difference between a few hours and something that last a few days.

It depends on what you're looking for. I'm never looking for autographs and photo ops, so it isn't worth it for me. For me, it's about hanging out with other fans.
The best friends (my family, really) came out of fandom, all those impromptu dinners and such.


It's more than that it Q&A's, cocktail parties, banquet, concerts, and dance, plus more including hanging out with friends and making new friends and even hanging out with the guest at times depending on the guest.

But the hotel costs them nothing. When you stay there, get your rooms, the conference spaces are free. Lighting and sound cost money, but the physical space is nothing. And if they sell out their block, there's even more negotiation room to get stuff cheaper.


Perhaps that is true for small meeting of a 200 guest and/or 1 meeting area and/or for only a few hours or less, but once you get up in number and/or multiple rooms you get charged for the use of those rooms especially if you are using them over a number of days. It makes no financial sence to give the meeting area away for that ammount of time and I can bet some of the money the PBP and W&H went toward the meeting area as well (it may have been included in the price of the drinks and food for the event buit it was there), especailly since the convention area is also a source of cost and income for the hotel. The block of rooms for a lower rate is because they are using the hotel for the event.

Hotel food and A/V costs a fortune, though. I've had an open bar go to 7k in four hours.


I would bet that part of that money went to pay for the meeting room as well even if you were not aware of it, like you said it's all inclusive at a small event like the PBP and W&H parties.

It's two different philosophies, I think. For me, I want to keep prices as low as possible so more fans can afford it. Fans with cash to burn will go to the places with guaranteed photo ops and autographs. Fans who scrape it together and quad up in the hotel, eating at McDonald's or bringing a cooler with lunches just so they can hang out together and be thrilled with a handful of surprise guests are my people.
One isn't better than the other when weighed side by side, they're just different. One is just better for me, personally.


Not really different philosophies, I know most cons have fans who scrape together in quads or more in the hotel, eat McDonald's or even cheese and bologna. So they can hang out together and party. The only difference is you have an idea of the guest who they will see for a whole weekend and even then they sometimes get a few guest surprises, the autographs and photo ops are just fun extras.
So the main difference between PBP and Mutant Boosters is $600 and a guarantee, then?

I think there are a lot of differences between a party and a con. And in both cases, you get what you pay for.
I wish I were part of Buffyverse fandom in the glory days of the PBPs. I would have killed, well, maybe maimed, to have attended one of those. Not that conventions are anything to sneeze at but at their prices they're totally out of my budget. And even if they only lasted a few hours, the intimate nature of the PBPs is hard to beat (in my mind, anyway.) But those of you going to this convention? Oh, boy, I'm jealous as all hell. Have a great time and take (and post) lots of photos and accounts, please oh please!
Hey all, just wanted to address this personally, since I'm one of the co-owners of BE.

Allyson, I agree, this is an apples and oranges situation. Nothing can compare with the pure rightness of having a party with fans you know and love from your on-line home(s) and having the celebrities you enjoy come and celebrate that family fandom with you.

Conventions are an entirely different beast. However, we formed BE for several different reasons. Originally, we intended to have a convention to celebrate the end of Angel's Food Drive. We were so happy at the generosity of the fans, at the rightness of supporting the food bank, that we wanted to do something big.

That spilled over into something different. Between us, we've attended LOTS of cons. And I'm right there with you on the herding, over bearing security forces, etc. We all believe, based on our experiences during the food drive, that it's possible for conventions to be something entirely different, for both fans and the celebrity guests.

Some people attend cons to hang out with their friends. Some people want to have a picture taken with the guests. Some people... well, you get my drift.

And it's extremely important to us to continue working for charity. We are having a charity auction (OK... actually more than one, more than two, more than...) and two charity luncheons.

And while, if enough people rent rooms at the Westin, we won't have to pay for our convention space, the down-payment to reserve the space is enormous and the penalty for not renting enough rooms ain't pretty.

I'm not going to go into financial issues, cause it's irrelevant and frankly, private. I will say the cost of putting on a three-day convention with this many guests is mind-boggling. We've offered up various options, from one day passes to weekend passes to add-ons, etc. No, the convention doesn't cost $600.00. If you attend every event and take part in all the photo ops, yes, it will set you back. However, that's a choice, not a requirement.

As for the Flan, no pricing has been announced yet, so it's premature to be talking about it being too expensive.

I guess I'm just bothered by the implication that BE is having these events, not out of a love for the fandom, but for financial gain. And I've seen consistent comment on the price, though we're not out of line with other conventions, so I find it puzzling. We want to explore new territory. And we're all Big Damned Fans.

Anyway, I would like to extend an invitation to you, Allyson, to be our guest, on the house, at the Angel Booster Bash, because I'd like you to see what I'm talking about. Both conventions and fan parties are, or, in my opinion, should be, celebrations of the fandoms we love. They are two faces to the same thing.
A Sat only ticket to the July event is $135 and a ticket to Sunday only is $95 so the price is not all that much more that PBP and Booster Events. You don't have to buy the extras and you still get alot of stuff including hanging out with your friends and getting a chance to see all the guest who are there for that day so the difference is $20-$35 dollars for what you want.
Sorry...never been to any of these events, but i'm trying to keep up. What's PBP?
phlebotin, I'm romanticizing PBP a little bit. There was crowding, and it was noisy, and people had some issues with all of that, including me.

I was a Bronzer, though. So there were aspects of it that were celebratory of a very specific community that I was a part of. When it got to be Too Much, and the community aspects started to water down, Caritas was born. No VIP guests. Just the Bronze community. We had a gorgeous party at Paramount, just us.

It was a little less than PBP, but gah, I had the best time.

D:LA was mine, just a few weeks ago. $100 bucks. Daniel Dae Kim, Harold Perrineu Jr., JJ Abrams, Damon Lindelof, Greg Grunberg, William Mapother, David Fury, and a lot more.

A fan told Greg Grunberg that her mom is a huge fan. He said, "Let's call her!" Pulled out the cell, called. At the end of the night, a producer asked how much the bar cost and pulled out his credit card saying, "the fans shouldn't pay for our drinks."

No lines for photos and autographs, just dancing and hanging out. So it is a little bit different. Grassrootsy. This is the way I like things to be.

But if I were a fan who wanted the pic, the autograph of a specific person, I'd pay the con price.

If you're not paying VIP guests to attend, it costs about 100-200 dollars depending on whether you're serving cocktail party fare or dinner. When you're paying 300-600, you're paying for the guaranteed VIPs.

In one case, you're flying thousands of miles to party with your fellow fans, hang with your community. If VIPs attend, it's icing.

In the other, you're flying thousands of miles to party with actors, and get an autograph. If you make the best friends you ever had, it's icing.

So yeah, despite what RavenU says, I think it is a different philosophy. One isn't better or worse than the other.

I think the positive thing about Boosters, as opposed to other cons, is that it's obvious that they love the shows, and it's about the fun of it as much or more than it is about making a buck. And if you really love the subject matter, you're bound to treat it with respect.

Would i pay for it? No. When I see the price I think, "that's a spa day at Burke-Williams."

But I'd love to meet up for dinner with Firefly fans who are in town. That'd be lovely.
I guess I'm just bothered by the implication that BE is having these events, not out of a love for the fandom

I think we were composing posts at the same time. See my above post about Boosters doing it out of love.

Thank you for your invitation, that's very generous. I must decline, though, cons aren't my thing. Like I said, dinner is always an option.
Dinner works for me! :-)
Cool! I'm Allyson at DavidFury dot net for emailing.
Thanks. Will email. Will meet. Will dine.
Having gone to DLA just a few weeks ago(Allyson, I can not say it too many times, it rocked) and WHAR, and to a couple cons, I gotta say I too prefer the feel of the party rather than the Con.
Even saying that I still might go to a small con now and than.(Comic Con is a given every year, no matter what)I am not able to attend the Angel Booster Event but I am looking forward to going to the Firefly Booster Event because I think it is about time someone planned a Firefly convention in the States.

So looking, thanks for planning this, I am looking forward to it! =)
YES!!! I can actually go to this!!! I'm moving to LA this summer cuz I'm gonna be a freshman at Pitzer College in Claremont CA... amazing. Can't wait to see these guys, especially post-Serenity.
barrest_smidgen, I believe PBP stands for Posting Board Party. I'm fairly new to this world, but I don't think there are any more PBP. Are there? I missed this scene. One of the Buffy DVD's (I think season 6) had a segment called "It's All About the Fans". I believe we saw some spots from one of these events. It sounds like a blast! I've never been to any event that is a party or convention, but I would like to go to both. BUT, if it comes down to it where I actually have to pick, I'm with Allison. Give me a party anyday. Maybe I'll get away from the kid and hubby and I can go to one of these things some day. I would LOVE to meet you guys and do a little partying in celebration of our love for all things Whedon.
Thanks, Harm. Just getting down with all the lingo, so I can dish the abbrieves with y'all.
barest_smidgen - Nikki Stafford's book "Bite Me!" has an interesting section on the history of the earlier PBP's, if you are interested too.

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