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May 06 2005

News on the DVD (R1) of David Greenwalt's series 'Profit'. Including news of commentaries from Greenwalt on 3 of the 10 episodes, including the double-length Pilot. As well as the news that Amazon.com now has it available for pre-order for $20.99, with a release date of August 9th.

This is something I can't wait to see. Can't. Wait. I missed it when it came out because I was out o' the country (U.S.) Thank goodness this is getting a great DVD treatment. So glad for David Greenwalt.
I wonder which ME writer has the most cancelled shows under their belt? In keeping with the trend, I'm sure this will be awesome :)

[ edited by Grounded on 2005-05-06 17:47 ]
This show deserves its DVD treatment. It was great while it lasted.
When Profit was first broadcast I remember being struck how completely different it was from anything else on the tube. A remarkable achievement. Years later I read something describing Adrian Pasdar as the husband of the Dixie Chicks lead singer--my immediate thought was instead they should be describing Natalie Maines as the husband of the guy from Profit. Can't wait for the DVD release.
I love Amazon's pre-order sales. $20.99 is exactly how much one should be expected to pay for 10 episodes of a cancelled series. None of this $29.99 for 6 episodes of Tru Calling crap.
"Natalie Maines as the husband of the guy from Profit." Apparently that couple is like Transformers, more then meets the eye... ;)
"I wonder which ME writer has the most cancelled shows under their belt? In keeping with the trend, I'm sure this will be awesome :)"

Counting all ended shows as cancelled Joss tied with David Simkins (if you feel like counting him given his 2 month tenure as showrunner on Angel is uncredited)

Joss - 3, Firefly, Buffy, Angel (with Greenwalt)
Simkins - 3, The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr(with Carlton Cuse and Jeffery Boam), Mercy Point, Venegence Unlimited (with John McNammara)
Greenwalt - 2, Profit (with John McNammara), Angel (with Joss)
Edlund - 2, The Tick (Animated), The Tick (Live action)
Noxon - 1, Point Pleasant (with John McLonghin)
Gordon -1, Strange World.

Interestingly John McNammara created two different tv shows with ME writers, and previously worked with Tim Minear on Lois and Clark
I wasn't counting shows that have ended i.e. Buffy. Simkins doesn't count.

For Greenwalt you're forgetting Jake 2.0 and Miracles which puts him in the lead ;)

Tim Minear has Firefly and Wonderfalls too, and according to tvtome he was on Strange World with Howard Gordon.
Yeah, there's no point in counting intended concluded shows in a list like this 'cause...well, it's not all tragic and such. Greenwalt's definitely had the worst luck, though I wonder if Angel should be counted for him since he had kinda left at the end of Season 3. Sure he came back to direct an episode in Season 5 (or was it 4?), but otherwise I don't think the loss would've hit him that hard that the series didn't come to its natural end.
Yeah but on Angel he was co-creator, as he was on Profit, whereas on the other shows he was in a 'lesser' position.
Can someone tell me breifly what this show is about?
Wheels of Joy - the following is from imdb.com on the plot summary. The show itself is a bit hard to describe, it's basically about what a sociopathic upbringing can do to someone and how it can effect their life - that is who Jim Profit is or perhaps not. The character was very complex from the begining which is one of the reasons that even though it was on for a few episodes it made such an impact that people remember it. The show originally aired in 1996.

Jim Profit works for a multinational company, and isn't above using any means necessary to get ahead, and that includes bribery, blackmail, intimidation, extortion, and even murder. Now everyone at the company, including the president, Charles Gracen are oblivious to his dark side, as a matter of fact, Gracen thinks of him as a golden boy. But Joanne Meltzer, the company's security chief looks into his eyes, she sees something sinister. And when her boss, Jack Walters is looking into some irregularities at the company, he asks Joanne to look into and initially, the person she cornered said it was Profit who was behind it, but when Profit learned of this, he convinced this person to change the story she told Joanne. But Joanne knows that Profit is evil and so she tries to get the goods on him, at the same time, Profit tries to find a way to neutralize her and anyone else who might believe her.


[ edited by RavenU on 2005-05-07 01:49 ]
thank you. that show sounds great!!
Good Lord. All you really need to know to get you intrigued is that the man sleeps, in the middle of a well-appointed uptown apartment, naked in a large box in front of the TV. With good reason. I recently re-watched the pilot at the Museum of Radio and TV Broadcasting and it really whetted my appetite for this bizarro but brilliant series, especially unseen eps- what heaven!
"Yeah, there's no point in counting intended concluded shows in a list like this 'cause...well, it's not all tragic and such. Greenwalt's definitely had the worst luck, though I wonder if Angel should be counted for him since he had kinda left at the end of Season 3. Sure he came back to direct an episode in Season 5 (or was it 4?), but otherwise I don't think the loss would've hit him that hard that the series didn't come to its natural end."

Well I was taking the meaning of most cancelled shows to be shows that belonged to them (through creater rights) rather than ones they had worked on. Shows worked on would obviously be a lot harder to work out, but I think Jane Espensen would have to be a contender, prior to working on Buffy, she worked on 6 shows, 5 of them were canceled the year she joined (Dinosaurs, Monty, Nowhere man, me and the boys, Ellen). Plus Tru Calling makes 6.

Jane - 6/7 (Dinosaurs, Monty, Nowhere man, me and the boys, Ellen, Firefly, Tru Calling). Firefly is very debatable given she was freelance
Greenwalt - 4/5 (Shannon's Deal, Profit, Miracles, Jake 2.0, Angel) Angel is debateable, though he was also a consulting producer not just director when it was cancelled
Minear - 4 (Lois and Clark, Strange World, Firefly, Wonderfalls)
Fury - 4 (The Jackie Thomas Show, Dream On, Life's Work, Angel)
Edlund - 4 (the Tick(Animated), The Tick(Live), Firefly, Angel)
Joss - 3 (Parenthood, Firefly, Angel)

Not sure on everyone else, people with long carears like Howard Gordon and Jim Kouf likely have several as well

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