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July 25 2005

More speculation on Wonder Woman casting. This time from the original Wonder Woman Lynda Carter.

"The O.C.'s Mischa Barton and Tom Cruise's new love, Katie Holmes, are rumoured to be among the top candidates, along with plenty of other Hollywood actresses such as Jessica Biel"

Please God, no...

Rumors. I maen what was the totally unbeleivable one last week?? And how many guys were up for Superman, before Mr.unknown got it??? I so agree. I think the best way to go is unknown, fresh , and with a great deal of enthusiam.

Actauly WW, I don't worry about to much, it is the characters around her I worry about. I trust Joss, will get a woman who is his version of WW, which will make the character hers and not just a role.
Lynda Carter. Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons (Diana's mom). This is a complete no-brainer. Joss?
I so thought that too. It would be a tasteful way to have her in the film, but not make her stand out.
Actually, I think a large part of this will rely on the actress choice. I totally trust in joss(tm) to deliver a great script, but if they stunt cast Heather Graham I'll just cry.
Well there's only ever be one good movie made about a female comc book character, will Wonder Woman live up to the legend that is "Jossie and the Pussycats"? (Best movie eva!!).

My theory on CGI Wonder Woman still stands btw.
Am I the only one who thinks Jessica Biel would be great for the role? She was the only good thing about Blade Trinity.

Of course when Stealth bombs this weekend, I imagine that Warner Bros will blackball her.
What is your theory, Simon?

I don't see Beil even close to whom I would say this studio would be willing to put this entire fledgling franchise on.

Maybe Angelina Jolie? But then again if they ever want to try and forget the horrible second Tomb Raider and return to the franchise, maybe not.
Well, listening to people who are not Joss or Joel Silver speculating about who to cast is as wasteful a way to spend time as I can think of. And why on earth are they all listing the names of these young, coed-type little girls?? We're talking about casting Wonder Woman here.

Insert 'what's next, Ashton Kutcher as Wolverine' joke here...

Am I the only one who thinks Jessica Biel would be great for the role? She was the only good thing about Blade Trinity.

Can't honestly say she was good or bad since her role as it was in the script was hardly worth the name. What did she do but kick vamps, look tough and (stupidly enough) listen to an ipod while in the middle of battle? There was hardly anything there for her to act with. What a terrible script that was... And the worst depiction of Dracula of the past few decades I think.

Besides there's plenty actresses I like well enough that I still don't consider the right type to play WW. She's supposed to be a tall, regal, impressive goddess of a woman. Lucy Lawless pulled that off in Xena. Gina Torres pulled it off in several roles. Catherine Zeta Jones....maybe. Jessica Biel isn't tall, regal or impressive in that way. She could pull off a Slayer, sure, but I can't possibly see her as WW.

I'm thinking more and more as well that an unkown might be the best way to go here.
What ridiculous "rumors". When I hear names like that, i giggle.
I'd say an unknown is probably the best way to go at the minute, but it really does depend on the story. Depending on the script, I'd say Morena could be an option here in some ways.
I would love to see Charisma Carpenter as WW. But since this is a "tentpole" production, my bet would be a more named actress.
I'm pretty sure Joss said he wouldn't cast any Buffyverse people. I doubt Charisma's playboy stint will have improved her chances much, either. And, to be frank (don't shoot me), I do wonder if Charisma has that much acting ability (depending on script).
My own feeling is that in roles such as this it is critically important not to use a big name star- when you do, what happens is that people end up watching the star and not the character, and the wall between the audience and film is harder to break down- we have to care about the character to invest in the story, and that is hard to do when you are watching a, say, Tom Cruise act, because you will see all the Cruise mannerisms that you already know.

Here, I can see a couple of whedonverse actors fitting the bill; Charisma Carpenter and Morena Baccarin. Of the two, Morena is less known, though Charisma has more of the voluptuous body type that the comic shows, and has a harder edge to her persona. Most of the other whedonverse actors, with the exception of Amber Benson (who I secretly would love to see in this role, as it plays against her screen persona), are rail thin little slips of woman, not right for this particular role. Catherine Z-J and Angelina Jolie certainly look the part, as does Lucy Lawless, but my sense is that none will really consider the part. Sandra Bullock is a great comic actor, and I am not sure this is the best role for her set of talents. Heather Graham would not work; as she is best in comic roles as well, even with her hair dyed. Oh, I did forget one other- Eliza Dushku could do this role, in her sleep. She ain't tall, but she's heavy, namean?
Elijah Wood as Wonder Woman!

On a less serious note, how about Eliza? :)
(A public service announcement from your friendly neighborhood Robogeek.)

THREE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND...

1.) All casting rumors are moot until there's a script, as we've been told by Joss (more than once, I believe), so don't waste any worry on them -- especially since most rumors are derived from either ignorance, fear, or publicists'/fans' wishful thinking. (Speculation is certainly fun, but probably pointless.)

2.) It's safe to assume that Joss has approval on casting -- just as Nolan did on BATMAN BEGINS and Singer did on SUPERMAN RETURNS (the two other Warner Bros. superhero tentpole franchises) -- and we know casting is something Joss is particularly great at. (In other words, this isn't going to be Jessica Alba playing Sue Storm.)

3.) In all likelihood, they're gonna cast young (early- to mid-'20s, tops), as they're building a franchise, and will sign her to a three-picture option -- just as they've done on BATMAN and SUPERMAN. And, as those projects have demonstrated, Warners doesn't seem to care about getting a "name" (who would be more expensive and less likely to sign on for three films anyway).

Finally, consider this one key word Joss has mentioned (I forget when/where) -- GRAVITAS. Have you folks looked at the comics lately? 'Cause Wonder Woman is a serious badass (especially when drawn by Jim Lee), and I think that's what we're gonna get...

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0507/18/infinitecrisis1.jpg
I can see Morena doing that, Robogeek. In person she has an edge that you never see when she plays Inara.
Yes, in a "Can't honestly say she was good or bad since her role as it was in the script was hardly worth the name. What did she do but kick vamps, look tough and (stupidly enough) listen to an ipod while in the middle of battle? There was hardly anything there for her to act with. What a terrible script that was...


I was thinking more along the lines of the tough part. She can play the tough chick well enough, which puts her miles ahead of Mishca Barton.

I imagine that Warner Bros will play it safe and cast a name actress (of sorts) in the role. I know CR was an unknown back when he was cast as Superman, but the studio system was a lot more different back then.

Yes Bryan Singer cast an unknown to play Superman, but the Superman franchise is hardly a wildcard.
What is your theory, Simon?


That the choice of any actress will please few so Joss and Warnes Bros go all Industrial Light and Magic and lo a virtual Wonder Woman is created.
Getting back to Lynda Carter - um, can she act? If Hippolyta is a small role, then sure, but if this is an origins story, I'd think Hippolyta would be a big part, and I can't see Joss handing her a meaty role when she'd just turn it into hamburger.

And Simon, your virtual Wonder Woman is a great idea, and very cost-effective since it could also be used for the inevitable video game.
It is a very intresting idea. It would deffantly be a new way to go. I would be intrested. But who do you model WW after. Which cover or face?

I think LC does a fine job acting given the roles she has had. She will always be WW.

[ edited by FalenAnjl on 2005-07-26 00:30 ]
Well if it was me, I'd call in some top comic book artists and look at their porfolios and have a look at some of the Wonder Woman art from yesteryear.
I would be torn between Alex Ross and Adam Hughes
and that is hard to do when you are watching a, say, Tom Cruise act, because you will see all the Cruise mannerisms that you already know.


Well, why not Tom Cruise? He's got most of the creds.

FWIW, when I saw Being John Malkovich, my first reaction was that Catherine Keener looked exactly like Tom Cruise in drag.
I wouldn't give this article any credit. Obviously the writer doesn't actually know what they're talking about. Mischa Barton is one of the weakest actors on The OC and there's no way she could pull off Wonderwoman. Joss isn't swayed by big star names. One all three of his shows, when they started, the ensemble cast were all not well known but all extremely talented and that's why they were successful. Joss could have went for fame over talent but he didn't, and I doubt he ever will.

I didn't have a high opinion of Katie Holmes before but her performance in Batman Begins made me think twice, however I still don't think she is right for the role. I think they will get someone young and new to most of us, but she will also have to be very distinct. I think they would have to go for someone with a taller, more imposing presence, similar to Lucy Lawless or Gina Torres.

I do have to admit that with Buffy at least she had supernatural powers but you wouldn't think SMG was a very physically strong person, the same goes for a lot of female heroes like Jennifer Garner or Jessica Biel. Don't get me wrong, they often seem very convincing when you see them in action, but characters like Buffy and Sydney are the way they are because they don't look strong, qhich surprises their enemies. But Wonderwoman will need to be strong and imposing.
Casting? One word - Morgan Freeman (well, that's two technically if you are going to be all literal and correct!)
*smiling about Morgan Freeman*

Morena! MORENA!
Razor,
I didn't have a high opinion of Katie Holmes before but her performance in Batman Begins made me think twice...


Really? She almost ruined the entire movie for me.

Besides Homles is under contrac... uh dating Tom Cruise. I doubt he wants her playing anyone who might jeopardize his real life image as 'the man' in the relationship.
I didn't have a high opinion of Katie Holmes before but her performance in Batman Begins made me think twice...

Really? She almost ruined the entire movie for me.


Yeah she was the only bit I would've loved to have seen hit the floor of the editing room. But frankly, with people like Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman and Michael Caine as the other 'side roles' it was kind of a given that Katie would not come out looking good. Apologies to Katie fans, but...I just saw every opinion I had about her confirmed. (Also never really found her that attractive to be honest)

Besides Homles is under contrac... uh dating Tom Cruise. I doubt he wants her playing anyone who might jeopardize his real life image as 'the man' in the relationship.

HAH! That one made me laugh out loud. Thanks, hehe.
I agree about Katie Holmes in the movie. She was forced into all of the scenes. You could have cut her completely and still not missed any point in the movie. I too kept wishing she would just shut-up or the scarecrow would just do away with her fast.

She to me is one of those actresses that gets by on who she was once upon a time or like now who she is dating. not much talnet and little girl mannerisms. Apologies to her fans as well.

As for TC, I have never been able to look at him twice after he dumped Nicole Kidman for Penelope Cruz. And Now KH. He going further and further into mid life crisis-ville.
I wasn't bothered by Katie Holmes in BB. And I believe she has some talent. On the other hand, I wasn't especially taken with the movie. It had good elements certainly - Christian Bale was fine as Bruce Wayne, and I liked Cillian Murphy a lot. But Liam Neeson's character failed to interest me, and I though the last half-hour devolved into the same old action stuff. Could have been any of the other Batman movies at that point.

Then again, relatively little impresses me at the movie theater these days. Fantastic Four was, as anticipated, blah too. Wish I could have seen what Alexis would have done with the role of Mr. Fantastic. (Although that part was chronically underwritten IMHO.) The only thing that worked for me, funnily enough, was the updating of Johnny Storm as an Xtreme Sports guy, which I thought suited the character perfectly. Still, I hear there's a decent movie coming out in September to look forward to . . .
SNT..I so agree about you fantastic four review. I went into thinking, hell it can not be as bad as the earlier version years ago. But it waas deffiantly dull. I liked extreme sport Johnny. But in all honesty hated how mild Sue was. The only good part was the parts with Sue and Johnny together.

As for Batman, Being a Superman girl, it was the first movie that made me care or show any intrest in the Batman character when he is not interacting with Clark or Diana. I thought the best part of the whole movie were the tiny parts that had him and his father in them. So little is done with his father, except to kill him that those humanizing touches were actually the most emotionally to me. it eill be intresting what they do with the next one. And if they want to or just never touch Dick Grayson.
Simon: Gotta admit - I like Josie and the Pussycats too. Any movie that uses the word 'ironic' correctly gets bonus points from me (am I being ironic here - I can't tell anymore!)

The whole TomKat thing just weirds me out, though. Are our box office dollars being used to fund scientology? Urgh. Can of worms not suited for this board. Forget I mentioned it.

Also....MORENA. Can we really have enough of her on the big screen?
SNT, if you liked Cillian Murphy, check him out in the upcoming film 'Breakfast in Pluto' (dir. Neil Jordan), where -- portraying a tranvestite would-be IRA killer -- he gets to snog my man Gav.
Everyone knows the Troia is the best DC Amazon. Come on Joss! Work her in! She's not dead anymore!
Troia! Wow! I am not the only one excited Wonder-girl is alive and well!

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