This site will work and look better in a browser that supports web standards, but it is accessible to any browser or Internet device.

Whedonesque - a community weblog about Joss Whedon
"You paid money for this, sir? On purpose?"
7179 members | you are not logged in | 23 November 2008


Advertising





August 17 2005

Serenity is a Labor of Love. A post from Adam Baldwin on how Serenity was made. Foremost, as a labor of love not for the money (reg req).

24984.41 in reply to 24984.38

>>> "[L]ove, not money, was clearly the driving force behind Firefly..." <<<

I will testify to this as being a *FACT!*

I personally witnessed the immediate aftermath of cancellation. Joss fought for the ressurection of FF/Serenity out of love and dedication to the storytelling.

He has often said so himself, and his actions back it up. I haven't a clue what he got paid... but I'll confidently assert that the vast/overwhelming majority of the budget appears on screen.

The money was a distant third, fourth or fifth to the stories Joss passionately wants to tell. None of us made a financial "killing" on this one. Naturally, we hope that may become an ancillary benefit to the entire enterprise, but this was a labor of love for us all. And if, Joss forbid, there are no more sequels; we will now be able to move forward with the knowledge that we were able to redeem our sadness at the loss of our beloved little television show with what is, I think, one of the best d@mn movies ever made!

Trust me on that one. :- )

We couldn't have done it without your support.

Serenity always,

A.B.

A lovely fellow...a real gentleman. Have to love Adam.

I've seen real excitement building for this movie...I feel the way I have in working on political campaigns (always as a volunteer), and it's similar to when I've seen winning momentum build inexorably...hope/pray that this happens...
*gulp*

That was awesome! I found those boards when I checked around about Point Pleasant. To my delight, I found the Firefly boards were about 12,000 X more extensive than those for Point Pleasant. There are posts from Nathan there, but I don't know if any are recent. Thanks for the link. I so feel like I'm on the inside of a great secret.
"And if, Joss forbid, there are no more sequels" Hee hee. Joss forbid. Another believer in the Joss is god theory.
Nice to see Adam post. Those of us in Toronto get to see him next week!!!!!! Except that they have him appearing at the same time as James Marsters.........
Awwww. Adam sure sounds like a good guy.
I love Adam!! That was so nicely said and so true! And I love how he said the "and if, Joss forbid" part because he thinks of Joss just like we do!!

CIV - I hope you're right in your observances about how the excitement seems to be building! I think you are because I can feel it too!
He does sound nice. And listening to his interview on the podcast yesterday, I got to realizing that he can be sincere and passionate and humble, all that good jazz, then whip out his slightly twisty sense of humor, which makes for an awfully appealing human being. I'd wager that's why I like the crew so much -- not only are they all very fine actors who embody their characters really well, but they have the wacky humor in their souls.
Jayne said 'ancillary'...hehehe...

'Joss forbid'. I love it! I wanna give Adam a bit ol' hug.
Adam is definitely the most accessible of all the BDH's. With his 10,000+ post at the original Firefly board so many of us fans feel like we know him as well as any of our online friends. I know I felt totally comfortable meeting him at the May 5th screening in Seattle. I felt like I was meeting and old friend that I hadn’t seen in a while, not a TV/Movie star. :)
They have AB and JM scheduled at the same time in Toronto? That stinks. It's not like there won't be lots of people wanting to do both.

Well then I'm glad I'm not going! (sigh) I tried indignation, it didn't work. I'm still bummed about not going.

Now that AB is going to Edinburgh too, he has definitely got some traveling to do in the next couple weeks.
I've wondered before, how does Joss manage to find there people who are talented AND nice?

I've never gone to a con or and "meet the star" type things but I really do hope there is some chance that Adam and the others are at the London screening next week and that I get the chance to shake their hand and tell them that we appriciate what they've done.
Jayne said 'ancillary'...hehehe...


LOL, how very Hamilton of him!

And so refreshing to see such passion and class in the artform when our entertainments these days are cranked out with such obvious cynicism and so little respect for the public.
I've wondered before, how does Joss manage to find there people who are talented AND nice?

I think it's a variation on "like attracts like". Joss is, by all appearances, a good, very intelligent, funny, open-minded and energetic human being, and through his creative visibility he tends to draw others to himself who admire or possess those same characteristics. Kind of like a 'nice magnet'.

I feel fortunate that the people who work with Joss are so generous and giving with their fans. It's a rarity for stars to interact with regular folks like us (not to mention voluntarily), but AB, JM, NF and others show you can attain success without copping the usual star-trip attitude.

I totally believe Adam when he says the film was made out of love. The series undeniably was, because it showed in every frame and in every word I've read from both cast and crew. Serenity is just another demonstration of Joss's typical care for and dedication to everything he creates. I consider him an artist, and in art -- in anything, really -- when you love something and your spirit and passion are fully engaged, you give it your best. Joss has demonstrated that attitude with every one of his past projects. He demands excellence and creative growth of himself, as well as from those with whom he works. Instead of feeding off the glory of past triumphs, he continually strives to exceed those achievements with fresh challenges. He keeps growing as a person and getting better at his craft, and we're the lucky beneficiaries of the results.
Yay. I hope so much that there are sequels and such.
You're right, Wiseblood. 'Birds of a feather flock together.' I've always been amazed how open and dedicated Joss and his casts are towards their fans. And you can tell it's a joy for them to do so.

I never had any doubts that Joss looked upon 'Serenity' as a labor of love. First, his comments to the cast on the day of Firefly's cancellation that it wasn't over and he wouldn't rest until he found them a new home. And he wasn't kidding. It had to take an extraordinary effort to talk 20th Century Fox into releasing the rights for movie production. That certainly isn't a habit for them. Then, to sell a movie based on a failed TV show that didn't even survived its first season to a studio. On top of that, he managed to secure the full cast for the movie. Quite a feat with a cast of nine actors and a credit to them as well.

With all those seemingly impassable obstacles, most writers/directors would've tossed their hands in the air and walked away. But Joss took it on because he had a story that was entertaining to his fans.

I'm not a fan of many people currently walking this planet, I can count them on the fingers of one hand. Joss will always be number one in my book.
Re: Niceness of the BDHs. It seems to me that Joss made a deliberate effort on "Firefly" to get a group that he'd really enjoy working with for what he'd hoped would be years to come. According to the commentaries, one person actually left and was replaced early on, and from what I've gleaned here, there may have been a personality issue.
Yeah, Morena replaced Rebecca Gayheart. I don't know if it was personality issues, or chemistry issues, or if she just didn't give off the right "air" as Inara. All Joss has said was "It wasn't working". And he did something about it. He didn't keep her because she had some (some--not a lot) name recognition.

And about "like attracts like". Look at Alyson and Jewel. Not only did he find one person like that--he found two!



You need to log in to be able to post comments.
About membership.

joss speaks back home back home back home back home back home