Watch with Kristin - James Marsters Chat.
About a Spike movie: " I just got off the phone with someone who talked to Joss [Whedon] yesterday, who claimed that it was very much on the front burner. "
"Joss has never told me anything like that. He's checked with me twice, to see if I was interested. I said yes twice, and both times he's been very clear that this doesn't mean that anything's going forward, [he] just wants to have [his] ducks in a row. What he told me was, the first question to answer is if there's a story worth telling. I thought there would be a lot of stories worth telling for Spike, but I think it has to be a story that he feels is worth telling, one that excites him enough. And I think if he finds it, there will be a Spike movie, and if he doesn't, there probably won't and there probably shouldn't be."
August 19 2005
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Meanwhile, it will be so nice to see James on TV again - missed him mightily! Here’s hoping Smallville does, indeed, create an ‘immaculate reality’ that beats the verisimilitude of reality shows... do reality shows really create verisimilitude?
Of course, I’ll take fantasy over reality any day, especially if Joss is behind it, and definitely if it includes James, like say, a Spike movie. I continue to dream...
showgirl | August 19, 09:00 CET
No. Just frickin' NO.
I'm sorry, but is this what our actors are doing now? This?
How hard can I say NO!
Willowy | August 19, 09:13 CET
No..most have new shows coming out.
charisma | August 19, 09:42 CET
He has said he has put certain geographic restrictions on what he is willing to do because of family obligations. If a show offers him a juicy role where he has brown hair, and American accent, has a chance to shine as an actor and it meets his needs in regards to his family, it makes sense to do it. Some fans may not like his choices, but you work with what you have and build on it. If Smallville gets him a step closer to where he wants to go, I say more power to him. Most actors' careers are not magic, they are hard work, tough choices and making the most of what they have to work with.
And just an observation, but it has been only a year since Angel ended. Unfortunately DB is the only regular from Angel who will be starting a new show. Everyone else is from Buffy, and has had 2 years to do other stuff before committing to a new show...
Showgirl, When they talk about his kids they are including his niece.
newcj | August 19, 10:20 CET
The movie is at a far earlier stage than I thought. And to be honest after reading what James said, I don't think it's going to happen. Which is a shame really.
Simon | August 19, 10:29 CET
I don't mind James doing Smallville. Granted, it's not high art by most standards, but I try not to expect actors to maintain some mythic resume—they need to have fun and make money just like the rest of us.
Ubqtous | August 19, 10:42 CET
Plus James loves comic books so this role will be a lot of fun for him .
To reply to Willowy and Charisma, in the last year James has done a guest spot , a TV film, an audio book, an album and a sell out tour in addition to auditioning for roles and doing some conventions . He's also turned down roles in various things ( Point Pleasant). It's actually a pretty busy schedule.
He seems to be doing exactly what he said he'd do which was to spend a couple of years re-establishing himself post Spike .
I think James has a long and fulfilling career as a character actor ahead of him.
I like his pragmatism on the Spike movie too, if it happens he's up for it, if it doesn't then fair enough.
[ edited by debw on 2005-08-19 09:53 ]
debw | August 19, 11:50 CET
Too true! But I figured this was Kristen we were talking about and then on top of that, since no other gossip columnist mentioned anything about it, I figured it would be anticlimatic from the moment Kristen mentioned her James interview. If only my cousin had listened to me, she wouldn't be disapointed right now. She would have got that out the way a week ago. :)
Nice interview though. And I agree, if Smallville gets James more work, then hey, more power to him. He's gotta feed the kids and all.
nychick | August 19, 12:16 CET
I'm very glad I read this. it's about time there was another James interview. I'm glad it looks like things are going well for him.
Pmacca01 | August 19, 12:26 CET
He does come across as having a plan for his career and sticking to it. Well done him, getting known in genre outside his Spike role seems like an excellent move.
I love the 'smashing reality shows' comments. He's so right - I'd rather have Smallvilles reality any day!
Verisimilitude, my junky bottom ;-)
vanity | August 19, 14:09 CET
gossi | August 19, 14:17 CET
He did after all cope with madness, adjust to having a soul , help Buffy find her place again, resist The First, train the Slayerettes , find out about Caleb and.. oh yeah save the frikkin world!
All in all pretty damn pivotal to the plot .
Eye candy indeed my junky bottom ( sorry, couldn't resist it!)
As to the film, if Joss is on board it will be great
If Joss doesn't think it will be great it won't happen and I'm OK with that. Cos I trust Joss.
[ edited by debw on 2005-08-19 13:39 ]
debw | August 19, 15:21 CET
So do I think there is more to tell??? Yes I do...and if Joss does too...then fine. James has already said that he will not buy into a script that doesn't further Spike's story...and I think if Joss does want to do this he will assemble a cast and crew of writers to do it justice....or he won't do it at all. It just comes down to him having time...so I can accept that it may take a while, and if it doesn't happen...then so be it. But if Joss doesn't do a Spike film...I seriously doubt he will do any films from the Verse at all...Big Screen or TV.
As for James on Smallville..I hope it all goes very well for him. It may not be the role I wanted to see, but I can get into it. As for some of the other actors getting 'new' shows of their own....how tenuous is that? They could be cancelled after 5 episodes...so I don't think thats any indication that they have made any greater strides than James has. It's all a crap shoot...and Hollyweird is a mean place. I wish them all luck...but a 'new' show is no more a guarantee of long term employment than several episodes on an established show. In the end it all comes down to them doing a job and trying to make a living.
That said...I am just happy to see James back on TV again, and I hope this is just the beginning for him......
kathylovesspike | August 19, 15:50 CET
It's got to be hard finding tv work these days, with non-verisimilitude reality in the way (although I'd put 15% of them in the "meh" category as opposed to "totally sucks"). I imagine many other shows would rather launch careers for fresh hot faces instead of hiring talent. That is what some shows do, right?
WhoIsOmega? | August 19, 15:53 CET
Plus, he's said before that he is a huge comics geek. It's just a brilliant combination, from my POV.
I didn't watch Point Pleasant, but I think they were hoping he couldrescue it, too. Nice to know he's in demand, but also nice to know that James can turn down work he feels is inappropriate for him.
What a wonderful position for any actor to be in.
vanity | August 19, 16:12 CET
Isn't it also up against The O.C. because if it is, the popularity of that show will also be stealing some serious thunder from Smallville.
MySerenity | August 19, 16:30 CET
I'm not altogether sure that ratings truly reflect the quality of a show - my experience with the Whedonverse tells me differently ;-)
vanity | August 19, 16:33 CET
Unfortunately, no, most of them don't.
The movie is at a far earlier stage than I thought.
As far as I could tell, it never got any further than talking about it and checking on who's available. I still hope it happens though.
Kids? Did he say ‘kids’?
He takes care of his niece too.
killinj | August 19, 17:04 CET
Ah, words to live by. :0)
I really enjoyed this interview, thank you for the link Nebula1400. He does come across as very grounded, intellegent and self-deprecating, all of which is wonderfully refreshing in this business.
I loved how he said he was being seduced by the producer to be on the show. Seems like he didn't audition for this part and that they approached him. Despite what anyone might think of the show, that fact is darned impressive I think you'd have to admit.
"I'm contracted for six to 10, so I hope it's 10. If I suck, it'll be six. I guess if I really suck, it'll be one. Like, "Wow, he died in the first episode?!""
What a charming comment. He is so not the diva. :0)
As to his comments about a Spike movie, yes it's not anything new, he's given JW a timescale and Joss has confirmed that until that elapses JM is interested. I agree with JM that Spike has a lot of story left in him, and I also agree that if JW doesn't have a story for Spike in him then it should not be done. These comments aren't either negative or positive about the prospect of a future movie. Sensible, pragmatic and very grounded.
This was a fun interview with a happy, relaxed sounding JM. And I've learned a new word too! LOL! :0)
lynnie | August 19, 17:05 CET
Ubqtous and debw, you make some very good points - actors gotta act, have fun, and make some money. It’s a bit unrealistic for fans to assume that actors will only accept roles in high quality shows, particularly if the benchmark for evaluating that quality has been established by Joss’ productions! James’ performances on ‘The Mountain’ and in ‘Cool Money’ were pitch perfect, and very non-Spike, non-William. They were ideal venues to showcase his acting and I’m confident that his ‘Smallville’ role will do the same.
showgirl | August 19, 17:47 CET
showgirl | August 19, 18:05 CET
Madhatter | August 19, 18:31 CET
That seems fair enough to me. I'd be rather surprised if it hadn't come up, she is a loyal Whedon promoter.
James Marsters' career seems to be going on fine without Spike so far - he doesn't have to do a movie to keep the wolf from the door, it seems. It's nice to see someone being positive about their Buffyverse experiences.
Although it's nicer to see a happy, successful Whedonverse Alum story. It always makes me smile when one of them does so well.
vanity | August 19, 18:42 CET
I also don't see his arcline as pivotal. He was a complete outsider of what was going on between Buffy and the rest of the gang and the season was also not really about defeating the enemy.
In AS5 he was more a part of the group, but still an outsider. His only real connection was with Angel. He got something with Fred in the beginning but that ended as soon as Fred/Wes started.
Koos | August 19, 18:50 CET
MySerenity | August 19, 19:10 CET
Honestly...I didn't think there was much left to tell about Xan, Willow or Dawn...maybe even Giles. But I did think Spike getting his soul was HUGE and his story still had somewhere to go. Still does IMO and I hope Joss someday soon will see that....
kathylovesspike | August 19, 19:16 CET
newcj | August 19, 19:26 CET
A person would have to be a real Grinch with a heart two sizes too small not to like this guy. Somehow his enthusiasm always manages to translate into the printed word and if “Smallville” is making him happy and he’s excited about it and who he’s working for, then I’m happy for him. He seems to be in that land of myth and legend the 'really good place right now', the lucky dog. I am relieved that he is on an established show instead of something else that risks being cancelled after three episodes so maybe he will be able to attract more attention that could lead to other offers. It’s a supporting role in a slightly under the radar show which I think is a much smarter move than demanding or holding out for a starring role in something that might never happen (I’m not talking about a possible Spike movie). Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim and actors gotta act. The character sounds interesting and if he has fun with it, that will no doubt show up on screen and maybe breathe some life into a show that, from the few episodes I’ve seen, bored me to an amazing extent. Good luck brown-haired American accented James!
bloodflowers | August 19, 20:12 CET
What what will I watch Alias or Smalville??
Humm...
Jonas | August 19, 20:44 CET
killinj | August 19, 20:45 CET
And as for James being a wonderful guy...I agree Bloodflowers. I just hope that all the enthusiasm James has translates to his role on SM and he does a fantastic job. It may be a show thats under the radar of main stream veiwing, but it will get him out there, and if he enjoys being Brainiac half as much as he enjoys being Spike...it should be something to watch.
kathylovesspike | August 19, 21:27 CET
Also, SV is a part of the wider Superman franchise which has a super-huge devoted audience and now he will always be a part of that dynasty.
Reddygirl | August 19, 21:36 CET
killinj- There's David, Alyson, Nick, ASH, Davalos, Daniel Dae Kim, Brigid Brannagh, C Kane, and CC is guest starring, the rest aren't in tv shows, if that's why you disagree with me but SMG, Andy Hallett, Densiof, Charisma, Emma Caulfield, J.AR, Acker, Strong, and many of the others are doing movies which is what they want to do. I'd say they are very fortunate.
charisma | August 19, 21:58 CET
Judy | August 19, 22:19 CET
Which is what makes this such a brilliant move for him. A lot of people watch Smallville who never watched Buffy or Angel, so he's reaching another established fan base. He's going to find an even bigger following in doing this, which will lead to more work and a better bargaining position.
Nebula1400 | August 19, 22:20 CET
killinj | August 19, 22:56 CET
* fingers toes and elbows crossed * that he has ,because in my opinion he is one of the best actors on any Whedonverse show and I'm really hoping to see him in something soon!
Also what is Andy Hallet's new gig? He's another hugely talented actor who I'm hoping to see do very well for himself.
Daniel Dae kim is doing great! "Lost" is an amazing show and a huge ratings hit.
It was a huge shame that Amy's role was recast , just goes to prove something not terribly complimentary about whoever made
* that* decision.
SMG and David are both busy and David's new show looks well worth a watch , though I confess I haven't seen his films yet.
J. August Richards got great reviews for a stage show recently
But the one I'm most pleased for is Nick Brendon, Kitchen Confidential looks like a lot of fun and it was a real * woot* moment to hear he's been cast , it felt like a long time since I'd seen him on Buffy .
In short I'm delighted that so many of the Buffy Alums are doing so well, they are an astonishingly talented group of people and I wish all of them the very best . It's going to take a * lot* of video tapes to keep up with all their projects.
debw | August 19, 23:34 CET
Impossible | August 20, 00:50 CET
Myserenity, maybe he was more of an outsider in Angel's show, but to me he was still an outsider in Buffy.
The biggest problem I have with Spike is that ever since they developed the Spike/Buffy arcline from S5 on, all characters that crossed is path had something against him. Riley, Buffy, Xander in S5/S6. Giles, Wood in S7 and then Angel. Xander had nothing against Spike anymore in S7 and thus was shoved into the background. The human vs vampire arc was dropped with it; an arcline from Xander that never had a proper closure. (An arcline that I was strongly interested in.)I just don't get it. It's like no-one can ever do something good when he's around.
Kathylovespike, I strongly disagree. Getting a soul is of course a huge device for an arc, but to say that you need to have something that heavy to get an arcline makes no sense to me. Especially Xander/Anya had a lot of potential, but after Never Leave Me it got dropped. I really don't see how Spike's redemption had any influence on Willow's empowerment spell.
Koos | August 20, 00:55 CET
Just curious...does anyone know if Alexis Denisof has worked a day since ATS went off the air?
kdavid323 | August 20, 01:20 CET
Oh I do hope Alexis gets work he wants soon. He's another very talented person who deserves a chance post-AtS.
Amy is another alum I'd watch in other things. As for James Marsters, well where he goes so goes my nation. My nation has a fair few citizens, I think ;-)
vanity | August 20, 01:49 CET
I for one am looking forward to seeing many of the new work the Btvs and Ats actors have on offer, especially NB and DB, and I wish them all well. Seems a pity it appears that some cannot extend the same to JM. *shrugs*
As to how he looks. As someone who was fortunate enough to meet him recently I'll just say damn good and nowhere near as old as he is. Why are people so age biased anyway. Youth does not equal talent.
lynnie | August 20, 03:45 CET
with a Sunnydale flavor is just around the corner. It's keen to watch the sky vigilantly, but the day it happens you won't be expecting it, consciously and sub-consciously. It will be unexpected, like getting socks at Christmas!
The Master | August 20, 04:40 CET
As for Jame's age and his looks...he still looks great, and is much more appealing to me than any of the new crop of 'so called' heart throbs and hunks on TV today. I think a man with a little maturity and a few miles on him is pretty sexy. James could easily be leading man material if he wanted to, but I think he likes or feels more secure being a character actor...so what ever floats his boat is fine by me. I will watch him no matter what, and I'd choose him over Pitt, Cruise, Clooney and Crowe anyday......
kathylovesspike | August 20, 04:50 CET
And let's not forget a certain Mr William Petersen who is the lead of one of the top rated shows and is 52 years old. Hugh Laurie is 46. Age is only a label others attach to us. It is, or rather should, be irrelevant.
lynnie | August 20, 05:15 CET
Top 20 Network Primetime Series this week, according to Zap2It.com, minus the reality, sports and news shows; male leads and primary co-stars only:
#1: CSI - Stars William L. Petersen, age 52, and George Eads, age 38
#2: Without a Trace - Stars Anthony LaPaglia, age 46, and Eric Close, age 38
#3: CSI Miami - Stars David Caruso, age 49, and Adam Rodriguez, age 30
#5&6: Two and A Half Men (two episodes back to back) - Stars Charlie Sheen, age 40, and Jon Cryer, age 40
#8: NCIS - Stars Mark Harmon, age 53, Michael Weatherly, age 37, and David McCallum, age 71
#10: Law and Order: Criminal Intent - Stars Vincent D'Onofrio, age 46, and Jamey Sheridan, age 54
#12 (tie): Everybody Loves Raymond - Stars Ray Romano, age 47, and Brad Garrett, age 45
#12 (tie): Law and Order: SVU - Stars Christopher Meloni, age 44, and Richard Belzer, age 61
#15 (tie): Cold Case - Male Co-stars John Finn, age 52, and Jeremy Ratchford, age 40
#15 (tie): CSI: NY - Stars Gary Sinise, age 50, and Camine Giovinazzo, age 32
#15 (tie): Law and Order - Stars Dennis Farina, age 61, and Sam Waterson, age 64
#18: Crossing Jordan - Male Co-stars: Miguel Ferrer, age 50, and Jerry O'Connell, age 31
Can I just point out that NONE of the top 20 shows have primary lead actors who are YOUNGER than 40, and only one (Charlie Sheen) is younger than James? No twenty-somethings to be seen, and even most of the thirty-somethings are less than five years younger than James. And most shows have other 40-something actors in their casts that I just didn't list (because IMDB is sloooooow and I don't have all day).
And even when you consider shows like 7th Heaven or Everwood, the "Dad" part IS the leading role...
And to refute the "...but James is known for his looks, so now that he's got a few wrinkles nobody will cast him" theory that I've seen elsewhere, may I again point out "David McCallum, age 71" above. Ever seen Man from U.N.C.L.E.? Cult TV show, McCallum was the heartthrob of the female fans. Guess what? He's still working. So it looks like James has at least a 30-year acting career in front of him. Better get used to seeing him on your television. ;-)
deanna b | August 20, 05:59 CET
killinj- There's David, Alyson, Nick, ASH, Davalos, Daniel Dae Kim, Brigid Brannagh, C Kane, and CC is guest starring, the rest aren't in tv shows, if that's why you disagree with me but SMG, Andy Hallett, Densiof, Charisma, Emma Caulfield, J.AR, Acker, Strong, and many of the others are doing movies which is what they want to do. I'd say they are very fortunate.
Don't forget Danny Strong on Gilmore Girls :) I am personally psyched that David, Alyson, Nick, James and Charisma are all back on the screen. Last year we had James on the Mountain, Charisma on Charmed (gag, I hate that show) and Alyson on VM for a few episodes. I think this season we are getting a more vast selection of shows to watch from, with our actors playing bigger roles. I can't wait :)
MySerenity | August 21, 00:19 CET