Patricia Arquette is amazing in that role - for a "fantasy" show... she is so... real... she has this great 'non-acting' thing with the way she 'acts' - she's just extremely believeable - I'm glad she one, 'Medium' is one of the only shows I'm watching... and woohoo for James Spader too

aapac | September 19, 18:23 CET

In fairness, I think one of the things which "saved" Buffy was the fact it was on a small network. Big networks want BIG RATINGS straight off the bat, something which would have killed Buffy.

gossi | September 19, 18:24 CET

To bad we will never know if that is true gossi.

RavenU | September 19, 18:33 CET

I'm just bummed Hugh Laurie didn't win...

Rogue Slayer | September 19, 18:36 CET

I'd think it is... I just can't see Buffy existing in todays TV network environment on, for example, Fox. I shudder to think, in fact.

In a world where Firefly aired on a pretty huge network and got canceled, I think it speaks volumes. A joss show a big network is entirely possible *IF* they are behind him and are willing to give it a year or two. However, reality has taught big network execs one thing: easy, huge ratings right off the bat. "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" on Fox? Not so much.

gossi | September 19, 18:38 CET

I'm actually of the opinion that had Buffy been on a bigger network, it would have gotten appropriately bigger ratings and done just fine. It maybe wouldn't have gone 7 seasons, but I could have seen it lasting 5.

Impossible | September 19, 18:45 CET

I agree Rogue Slayer, Hugh Laurie is an amazing actor.

killinj | September 19, 18:45 CET

The problem is, would it have survived the first season? On a big network, you have to make a pretty big splash to survive a long time. I mean, if you do badly you get canceled after a few episodes - see also, Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside - all on Fox. Lost had something like 15 million viewers from the get go. Joss' shows tend to have barriers - vampires, drunken westerns - which as a mainstream (which you need to be) show you will struggle with. On a cable station, maybe it'd be fine, but limited numbers.

gossi | September 19, 18:56 CET

It doesn't have any Buffyverse scribes on it now does it? Fury left, Goddard only did one or two episodes.

Simon | September 19, 18:57 CET

Uh....Joss was on a big network.....it was called Firefly. 'nuff said. ;)

nakedandarticulate | September 19, 18:57 CET

This is a big let down. I lost faith with 'Lost' on the last episode. Forget it...

Madhatter | September 19, 19:17 CET

Well - if Fury has already left the show - it was not apparent on last nights awards show. He was front (well - one behind the producer) and center. I kept yelling "Go David Go!". I can't keep track of who is writing for what show anymore. Did anyone catch a glimpse of Aly in the audience too? Woohoo! I couldn't see if Wes was with her but it was good to see her there.

ruthless1 | September 19, 19:24 CET

And I'll have to add "Miracles" to the list. ABC tried, but decided it wasn't worth it. Which I'm still upset about. I'm thrilled about Lost, really I am. I enjoy the show. But I'm not sure that it would have lasted the whole season if it didn't get ridicuously crazy buzz from the get-go.

XanFan32 | September 19, 19:30 CET

ruthless1- Yes, Alexis was with Aly, I spotted him at one point in the audience. Alyson introduced Kirsten Bell as well.

fortunateizzi | September 19, 19:33 CET

Fury has signed up for 24 Season 5, I believe, but of course he'd be at the Emmys with the Lost crew. He was an integral part of the writing team for the first season, which was what was being honored.

ringworm | September 19, 19:36 CET

My big beef with the Emmy awards this year is "Everybody Loves Raymond". That show got SO bland in the end. For it to beat two much better shows -- Arrested Development and Desperate Housewives -- in the comedy category is just sad.

chickenbird | September 19, 19:39 CET

Yes, David left for a writing contract at Fox. He worked on The Inside for the last 3 episodes and then moved to 24 under contract. He'll be well paid, so all credit to the man.

gossi | September 19, 19:41 CET

I am still quite proud of Fury winning even if he left. But I was very much imagining Joss and Co. up there too. David standing there helped with the fantasy.
*really heavy sigh*
Also fortunateizzi thanks for the answer. I always jump to the top of whedonesque first thing (no chronological order for me!) so I missed the entry with the pic of Aly and Alexis that was posted earlier.

ruthless1 | September 19, 19:42 CET

If Buffy or Angel were in bigger networks, and they eventually decided to stick with them for a while, a lot of compromises would've happen, and we'd have seen very different shows, he Joss and crew did give in for exec pressure. Which would be sad.

Lost is okay, but still lacks something, from it's writing. It's not about how good a tale can be, but how better written this good tale can be written.

Numfar PTB | September 19, 20:01 CET

I tuned out when Fury lost. Damn.

MySerenity | September 19, 20:19 CET

I watched the Emmys, but not "Emmy Idol". That would have been hazardous to my health.
OK, I saw Kristen Bell. At least she could sing. Donald Trump in overalls is not better than Kristin..and never should be
Just like James Spader isn't better than Hugh Laurie, no matter what the Academy says.
But could David Fury call himself an Emmy winner because "Lost" won Best Drama, and he was one of the exec producers? Just wondering

impalergeneral | September 19, 20:25 CET

Pointless post warning:

Am I hearing that Donald Trump and the woman from Will and Grace won that silly Emmy Idol thing? Good grief, how low can my opinion of the US TV audience go? ...Course, I never even considered voting because I thought it wasn't worth the time or effort, no matter how small. So I guess I not only have no right to complain, but also cannot blame the TV viewing audience because it is only the ones who cared enough to vote who had such bad taste.

Oh well then, never mind.

newcj | September 19, 20:39 CET

From http://emmys.org/awards/2005pt/awards/drama.php:

Lost • ABC • Touchstone Television
J.J. Abrams, Executive Producer
Damon Lindelof, Executive Producer
Bryan Burk, Executive Producer
Carlton Cuse, Executive Producer
Jack Bender, Executive Producer
David Fury, Co-Executive Producer
Jesse Alexander, Co-Executive Producer
Javier Grillo-Marxuach, Supervising Producer
Sarah Caplan, Producer
Leonard Dick, Producer
Jean Higgins, Produced by

So yeah, I think Fury gets an actual Emmy.

In defense of Emmy Idol, it seems to me the whole point was for it to be (wait for it...) FUN! The Green Acres thing was fun, as was the Star Trek thing. The best performance in terms of quality was undoubtedly the Jeffersons one (Kristen Bell did the best she could with a weak song). Anyway, what I'm saying is it really wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

[ edited by jam2 on 2005-09-19 19:02 ]

jam2 | September 19, 20:54 CET

jam2, Fun? Are you sure? Now I have to go back a watch the tape. :-)

Seriously though, yeah, I figured out they were going for the fun. And yeah, I realize I take my fun much too seriously. I also realize that many people would give extra fun points to Donald Trump for making a fool of himself. I'm just not one of them. Me, I grouped them just like you said, Green Acres and Star Trek together and Fame and Movin on Up together. I just labeled them differently. ;-)

newcj | September 19, 22:24 CET