Revenge of "All The Serenity Reviews You Will Ever Need To Read".
Part three (already?) of Whedonesque's coverage of the Serenity reviews. So links to reviews are to be posted in this thread. And seeing as it's now the 30th, Serenity opens today in the United States. Best wishes to everyone involved in the making of the movie.
Link to the first review thread
Link to the second review thread
What should be posted in this particular thread:
Post the movie review link and where it's from i.e. the New York Times.
Include a brief blurb regarding whether the reviewer liked or disliked the the movie (find a quote you like).
State whether the review has spoilers in it (minor or major).
And please do not talk about spoilers in this thread.
September 30 2005
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Take that all thsoe who said 70% was dreaming....
(Now posted in the correct place)
cyberjoek | September 30, 02:17 CET
Manohla Dargis, snooty reviewer for the one of the most widely read and respected papers in the country, says, "Damn good, although not as good as Firefly." (I'm paraphrasing here.) Who would've thought? Also, points for describing River as "whedonesque."
No spoilers.
[ edited by bobothebrave on 2005-09-30 00:19 ]
bobothebrave | September 30, 02:18 CET
Christian Science Monitor
Grade: C+
(Also appears to completely misunderstand River's situation.)
The One True b!X | September 30, 02:18 CET
Has the NY Times review been posted yet? Edited. Never mind. Now it is.
[ edited by eddy on 2005-09-30 00:21 ]
eddy | September 30, 02:20 CET
bonzob | September 30, 02:21 CET
I mean, is it fair to turn that opening paragraph into, "Superior ... engaging." Heh.
[ edited by theonetruebix on 2005-09-30 00:23 ]
The One True b!X | September 30, 02:22 CET
Pretty good NY Times review. If I knew nothing about Joss & Firefly, I'm not sure it'd get me into the theater. But it would certainly pique my interest.
phlebotinin | September 30, 02:23 CET
I know it's the 30th SOMEWHERE in the world...just having a little fun. I already have my Serenity bash planned. I won't be able to see it opening night, but I already have a ticket for the 10 PM screening on October 1st...MY BIRTHDAY! What a birthday present!
And as if that weren't enough, my birthday present from my parents (at 23, you only get one) is a bomber jacket. Which is getting shipped to me tomorrow in time for me to wear it to the screening. That's right, it's a BROWN COAT! Along with my Wash shirt and khakis, I'll be 'versingin style.
Best. Birthday. Ever.
BAFfler | September 30, 02:23 CET
Caroline | September 30, 02:32 CET
The One True b!X | September 30, 02:33 CET
Eric G | September 30, 02:50 CET
Also, and I doubt this is even remotely spoilerish, but it's *not* just as simple joyride...there are profound elements to be found in Serenity, if the arrogant critocracy would even bother to look.
Chris inVirginia | September 30, 02:55 CET
Take that all thsoe who said 70% was dreaming....
Cream of the crop now at 89%!
Shakespeare | September 30, 02:57 CET
Well, you can't really interpret and change someone's words when you quote them, so you have to work with what's there. Personally, I don't like the comparisons much as a marketing tool (even though I agree with them). I just feel like it could piss off SW fans, and I think Serenity can be praised on its own merits.
[ edited by jam2 on 2005-09-30 01:00 ]
jam2 | September 30, 02:59 CET
Equalitynow | September 30, 02:59 CET
Dachelle | September 30, 03:03 CET
Indeed it does.
Chris inVirginia | September 30, 03:13 CET
Mandy, you're probably right. (Although I have to acknowledge that there's a small possibility that you could be right.) ;-)
Seriously, though--I thought Nathan Fillion had real Movie Star charisma (I didn't feel that way about everyone--Sean Maher, for example, still seemed a little TV-ish, if that makes sense).
tehipite_tom | September 30, 03:19 CET
m'cookies actual | September 30, 03:25 CET
Harrison back in the day I should say. Not the Harrison who barely seems awake these days. Too much pot is no good Mr. Ford.
Eric G | September 30, 03:33 CET
eddy | September 30, 03:47 CET
Fresh: 3 Rotten: 10
Average Rating: 4.2/10
Into the Blue ratings anyone? Looks like a blue bakini can't save this flick from sinking....
MySerenity | September 30, 03:55 CET
DAVID STRATTON: Very well written actually. I'm giving it three and a half.
MARGARET POMERANZ: I am too, three and a half.
purplehazel | September 30, 04:01 CET
The Dark Shape | September 30, 04:04 CET
phlebotinin | September 30, 04:09 CET
"Structured in a way that draws newcomers smoothly into the story, 'Serenity' incorporates the most beloved aspects of the TV show while tossing in twists and turns to keep experienced fans guessing ... and gasping."
Pull quote:
"Packed with..humor, swaggering panache and so much screamin' action that viewers will have to pluck their fingernails from the theater seats when it's over."
A little long, but really evocative. This critic totally understands it.
Chris inVirginia | September 30, 04:30 CET
Also, the Hollywood Reporter has a review up (including spoilers). It's positive overall, but is decidedly mixed.
Hello all. This is actually my first comment, so let's hope I do this right. I've looked and I haven't seen these posted elsewhere, but I might have missed them.
Hamster | September 30, 04:53 CET
Equalitynow | September 30, 05:06 CET
Australian ABC TV program, reviewed on wednesday night. They basically the most respected of the Oz Critics. They're positive review is what we needed in Oz. It's not a bad one, lemme tell ya.
nixygirl | September 30, 05:17 CET
So, that kind of sucks because they're a big-name paper, although it's oddly heartening to me because it seems like most of the negative reviews are coming out extremely juvenile while the mostly positive ones seem very well-thought out, and I tend to judge a movie's quality based on the review quality.
seasleepy | September 30, 05:27 CET
SerenityScape | September 30, 05:34 CET
Knuckleball | September 30, 05:35 CET
This USA Today review is simply ridiculous, and, as SerenityScape notes, with no substance, none at all. Just irresponsible drivel, sorry if that falls into the personal level, mods, but something that obnoxious (and in a big circulation paper) is irksome beyond the telling of it.
Chris inVirginia | September 30, 05:41 CET
Knuckleball | September 30, 05:52 CET
zeitgeist | September 30, 05:57 CET
optimistic34 | September 30, 06:06 CET
crossoverman | September 30, 06:10 CET
"...the movie was a lot of fun -- even for this guy who'd only seen a few episodes of Buffy and never even heard of Firefly. Everybody I talked to after the screening loved it. Not high concept exactly, or maybe more of the concept would have been discernible if I'd seen the series, but fast-paced, electric and exhilerating. Sort of a mix of the Matrix, with Total Recall, various Harrison Ford movies, dystopic science fiction and the language and moral outlines of old-fashioned westerns. It ran about two hours but felt like about twenty minutes."
oscillator72 | September 30, 06:16 CET
[ edited by The Devil's Robot on 2005-09-30 04:30 ]
The Devil's Robot | September 30, 06:29 CET
But it won't be online until early morning. Will watch.
Drifter | September 30, 06:31 CET
I too am a little tired of the comparisons between Harrison and Nathan. I love both, but it's hard to compare. Ford has been seen in an extremely rich movie career, and I really only know Nathan from FF/Serenity and Buffy. There are some similarities in type, but I think they each have several different things going on compared to the other. Let's see if Nathan stars in a zillion blockbusters and I'll get back to you in 20 years.
(Btw, I do think Nathan has the edge in comic timing and delivery though)
EdDantes | September 30, 06:44 CET
bonzob | September 30, 06:46 CET
bobothebrave | September 30, 06:50 CET
Yup, how right you are.
Salon.com review by Zacharek, and somewhat spoilery. It's a great review -- not because it's all-fire positive (it's not) but 'cos it's very well-written and passionate. She writes with delicacy of the things to love in this movie: the images, themes and emotions that Joss can evoke. Her only problem with the film? It's not Firefly:
[ edited by dottikin on 2005-09-30 05:14 ]
dottikin | September 30, 07:04 CET
[ edited by zeitgeist on 2005-09-30 05:39 ]
zeitgeist | September 30, 07:38 CET
'Course, none of this is to say that critical enthusiasm translates into box-office returns, but it damn well doesn't hurt. But who'd be a creator? I've been reading some of these reviews with fingers half-covering my eyes - and I'm just a humble fan. How on earth does Joss approach such stuff?
SoddingNancyTribe | September 30, 07:40 CET
The critics I'm still waiting on (and no guarantee that either will actually review the film, as they pick and choose): David Edelstein of Slate and Glenn Kenny of Premiere.
MattM | September 30, 07:42 CET
IGN FilmForce
"The film is teeming with an overwhelming amount of integrity, heart, soul, and some of the best written characters to invade genre fiction in quite some time."
Only very minor spoilers.
jam2 | September 30, 07:55 CET
IGN FilmForce
Heh, just posted that a few posts up. But I've probably done that myself a couple of times today. Who the hell could keep up with three threads of review links??
I wish I could say the same but the notion that people get paid for those thought-free pieces drives me 'round the bends.
I know! I'm nervous about the opening weekend, because you just can't help feeling so close to all this. Joss and the cast are pros of course, but we all know how much heart and soul (not to mention blood sweat and tears) went into this! You know it's going to be heartbreaking to them if it wouldn't do well.
EdDantes | September 30, 08:09 CET
I'm with the other people who are pleasantly surprised at how well the reviews are coming out so far. I was steeling myself for a lot of dumb-snarky reviews like the USA Today one, but so far they've come out amazingly well, and from a lot of big-name places that are often pretty rough on movies that I like. I'm still not going to be able to relax until the weekend totals come in on Sunday, but this is very encouraging.
seasleepy | September 30, 08:13 CET
spikeangellover | September 30, 08:14 CET
Well, if you ask me, Dark horizons is a great movie rumor site, but it's not a place to go to when you want quality reviews. Even when I agree with Garth I think his writing is a tad sub-par.
EdDantes | September 30, 08:22 CET
[ edited by The Devil's Robot on 2005-09-30 06:31 ]
The Devil's Robot | September 30, 08:29 CET
I've emailed Bernardinelli about it, and he said that he won't be able to see the movie until the 30th. The review should be up shortly after.
[ edited by NickSeng on 2005-09-30 09:24 ]
NickSeng | September 30, 08:32 CET
tungsten_needle | September 30, 09:36 CET
Goofy characters?
holycow | September 30, 09:58 CET
Space Cowboys (SPOILERS, but at the level of movie trailer or familiarity with the series.)
by Shawn Levy
"All of those influences are visible in this rowdy, smart, funny and gripping film, a wild and woolly cross of Western, zombie movie, martial arts film and situation comedy in the skin of a science-fiction epic. It's infectiously good fun -- the most, no doubt, that some people will have at the movies this year."
FWIW, this makes three for three here in Portland, with Willamette Week, The Portland Mercury, and now The Oregonian. Waiting to see if Portland Tribune has one tomorrow.
The One True b!X | September 30, 10:01 CET
http://www.sltrib.com/themix/ci_3074044
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,615153955,00.html
Yentroc | September 30, 10:23 CET
The Toronto Star summarizes: 3 stars out of 4:
"The good spaceship Serenity makes a safe and mostly happy landing in creator Joss Whedon's big-screen expansion of his cult TV series. Fans get priority seating on the ride, but there's plenty of room for rookies to clamber aboard."
Thrill ride on the wing of Serenity
Eye magazine has four stars in its eyes:
"Translating a barely seen TV show with nine main characters to the big screen forces Serenity to play catch-up for viewers old and new alike, but Whedon pulls it off through sharp writing and loads of action. "
Go here for four paragraph Eye review
Now magazine figures it's worth three stars (n's) out of five:
"The acting and emotional moments have a strong whiff of TV, but that's more than made up for by Whedon's gracefully loopy dialogue, here brought to full flower."
Very short Now review
Drifter | September 30, 10:37 CET
Simon | September 30, 10:39 CET
The Toronto Sun newspaper gave it 3.5 out of 5. He liked it, but not without some reservations (his review seems to add up to more of a 4 out of 5 to me, but ah well).
"The result is no classic and is obviously flawed (including odd camera angles on close-ups [me: bwah?]), but well worth seeing."
I like how much props he gives Chiwetel Ejiofor, I hope to see a lot of mentions about him in more reviews (though they might do better to mention Dirty Pretty Things as another of his roles rather than Amistad, since I'm pretty sure more people saw DPT and it's more accessible). The Operative is a very worthy villain.
"What the movie lacks...is an ultimate secret that has any Earth-shattering impact. Serenity goes to a hidden planet, and runs a gauntlet of cannibalistic Reavers, to find that secret. But it is not as big a deal as the movie makes it out to be. In fact, it is anti-climactic."
Whoa, huge disagreement there. The government revealed to be attempting to modify the population's behaviour not a big deal ? Come on. If a lie--or more than one, ideally--belonging to corrupt politicians on the scale of the blunder in on Miranda could be uncovered and proven to the public to be undeniable beyond a shadow of a doubt, that would be an amazing thing to see. How you can watch Serenity and not see some real power behind its don't-fuck-with-people's-freedom/always-hold-the-people-in-power-responsible message...I don't get it.
Ah well, I didn't expect him to absolutely adore it or anything. He reviewed the Firefly DVD set when it came out and called the series really campy, never quite found its legs, etc. I got the impression he didn't watch all the episodes, but I could've been wrong.
[ edited by Kris on 2005-09-30 08:45 ]
Kris | September 30, 10:42 CET
http://www.standard.net/standard/go/movie%20reviews/63312/
Yentroc | September 30, 10:52 CET
The One True b!X | September 30, 11:03 CET
"Serenity is not a bad movie. It is an obnoxiously loud movie."
Makes it sound like someone who abhors, um, sound.
crossoverman | September 30, 11:04 CET
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/movies/reviews/text/0,1259,---26900,00.html
Yentroc | September 30, 11:12 CET
"Science-fiction event." Heh.
wrinkled time | September 30, 11:22 CET
It's not by Kenneth Turan, unfortunately, but you can't have everything.
wrinkled time | September 30, 11:35 CET
I checked Original Firefly board and lots of very positive reviews being posted there (thanks Ying! for the link)
Drifter | September 30, 12:24 CET
dreamlogic | September 30, 12:35 CET
4 stars out of 5, the reviewer attributes the cancellation to poor ratings "and poorer handling by Fox," all around encouraging. The Republic is pretty well circulated in our nation's 6th largest city, so encouraging.
kishi | September 30, 12:49 CET
...and right now the movie is 77% at rotten tomatoes and 72 at metacritic.
Mr Universe | September 30, 13:06 CET
And their article has the following to say about our BDM:
Awesome!
Ronald_SF | September 30, 13:29 CET
Equalitynow | September 30, 14:19 CET
I'm not. Having seen the movie -- and just returned from a midnight screening 30 minutes ago -- Serenity is a gem when you consider most of the movies reviewers are paid to review. The movie has energy and wit even though it's not perfect, it plays intensely and with feeling. Most Hollywood movies, even the not-bad ones, are so enervated, while the last half of Serenity is practically blazing with feeling and energy. I knew the official reviews would be good.
And the SF Chronicle one is not yet in, but the blurb is:
This new space opera clearly was written by someone who grew up worshiping at the alter of Han Solo and the space marines in “Aliens,” but it’s still a thrillingly original creation. Writer-director Joss Whedon essentially remakes his failed TV show “Firefly,” while placing more emphasis on his thoughtful vision of the future of man. The finished product is mostly a huge gift to science-fiction geeks, but it’s good enough for mainstream audiences to enjoy as well.
-- P. Hartlaub, SF Chronicle
They give it the highest rating: the little man jumping out his chair. Interestingly, they give MirrorMask and A History of Violence the lower rating, with the little man politely clapping. I haven't seen either, but that is mostly likely good taste!
dottikin | September 30, 14:35 CET
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