Though it could be the second or third unaired episode in terms of original running order, really not sure.
I read ages ago on fireflyfans.net that in the original script, it was a Beatles album Mal and co had to retrieve but apparently it cost too much for the cover rights so alas it wasn't to be.
Anyhow the Cinefastique commentary from Whedon and Minear.
Joss
Who among us didn’t want to see more of Saffron? She was delightful. Between her and Mal’s butt, we knew that this was landmark television. It was another sort of heist episode and was fun with a lot of things to play. It really was probably the lightest episode we did. The scene between Mal and Inara at the beginning is just hilarious. Really an opportunity to play around with everybody more than anything else. Obviously we always like to hit a few issues and I was interested in Saffron’s psychosis and I liked breaking it down like that and seeing what was behind it. It doesn’t mean you catch her, it doesn’t mean you win, but her interplay with Mal speaks a lot about both of them. It just came out fun.
Tim
Ben Edlund again. The return of Saffron and another hilarious heist. That was tricky, because Ben got to sit down and write this character that Joss had created that was very beloved on the “Our Mrs. Reynolds” episode and I thought he did a great job. One of the fun things about this episode was Serenity coming up under this trash bin in this floating city. It’s kind of sad that the episode didn’t actually air on television, because that floating city over the ocean was just not something you see on TV every day.


MySerenity | October 08, 00:10 CET
killinj | October 08, 00:14 CET
SpookyRiverFan | October 08, 00:17 CET
Haunt | October 08, 00:19 CET
I'll be watching tonight, even though I have the DVDs I just love seeing 'Firefly' on the Sci-fi channel.
embers | October 08, 00:19 CET
Simon | October 08, 00:23 CET
ChosenOne5376 | October 08, 00:30 CET
Ghost Spike | October 08, 00:31 CET
Simon | October 08, 00:35 CET
palehorse | October 08, 00:37 CET
Kidding. I do have fond memories of that time, and it was pretty much about the time I just joined whedonesque. I was already very familiar with the episode, having watched it on my computer a few weeks before, so I was delighted to be able to watch on the TV.
About those intros, they were all showed over here. Funny is that as I edited my tapes to the production order of the episodes, created some mix between episodes with the Mal's intro and episodes with Book's intro.
There are just some really delightful moments from this episode. From Naked Mal entering the ship like nothing has happenned, and that everything has gone the way he planned. Inara trapping Saffron in the trash bin was a classic moment.
But this episode also reminds me about sad things, because it means that we're to the end of the seried.
No movie yet over here. But I'm very positive now. Just saw a poster in a theater, I even froze in front of it for like a whole minute. It must've been freaky for people wathing my little moment of contemplation. Well, wishing for a better weekend box office.
Numfar PTB | October 08, 00:42 CET
killinj | October 08, 01:05 CET
vampire dan | October 08, 02:02 CET
killinj | October 08, 02:37 CET
I wouldn't have wanted Saffron to become a part of the crew. We don't need another Spike in Whedon's work. Once or twice a season of Saffron would've been very cool though.
One of my favorite "Trash" lines is a pretty basic laugh.
"You can't keep me in here--I have a condition!"
I like "Trash" because it's the epitome of what I like in filler episodes--fun, well-shot, well-written story with some of the continuity touched on (Jayne vs. Simon & River conflict/resolution?) and maybe some insight into some of the characters (Simon, Mal, Saffron).
Kris | October 08, 02:44 CET
Decent turnout at the 1 am matinee in Arlington, Virginia...better even than the 1:40 last Friday that phlebottinin and I attended in DC.
Chris inVirginia | October 08, 02:55 CET
Hmm. I've always thought Joss's shows haven't used their interesting guest characters often enough.
Grounded | October 08, 03:08 CET
The Dark Shape | October 08, 03:50 CET
Ronald_SF | October 08, 03:58 CET
The Dark Shape | October 08, 03:59 CET
Ronald_SF | October 08, 04:00 CET
I thought cable channels allowed MORE than networks?! I enjoyed seeing the episode again, just as I knew I would. But I was disappointed that there was no ad for 'Serenity' during the show.
embers | October 08, 04:00 CET
Simon | October 08, 04:04 CET
[ edited by brownishcoat on 2005-10-08 03:14 ]
brownishcoat | October 08, 05:13 CET
Chris inVirginia | October 08, 05:40 CET
electricspacegirl | October 08, 06:19 CET
Kris | October 08, 06:32 CET
Harmalicious | October 08, 06:38 CET
spikeangellover | October 08, 08:48 CET
I loved this episode and I loved Saffron in it. I think we wouldn't have seen her again for awhile though if the show had gone on - like maybe at least another season before she showed up again.
And yes, boo hiss to sci-fi for blurring his butt! Is it because it is on at 7 PM that they are doing these editing things?
And I went to see Serenity again tonight with my two girls and my daughter's friend who hadn't seen the show nor the movie before and she absolutely loved it and thought it was the best movie she had ever seen. She's 16.
Last week we went to the 9:30 show and this week it was the 7:00 show and both audiences only had about 35 people in it. Last week's audience was much more attentive while this week we had a few groups of people talking (Book would so frown upon that behavior)! The audience seemed to be mostly people above the age of 20 up to around the 40's and there was one group of three teenage boys and a couple of kids with their dad. I'm wondering if Universal should have let this be an 'R' rated film and just targeted the older, mature crowd because both shows I went to seemed to be people around my age (41). The three boys sat in front of us and they were a little unruly and I tried hard not to say anything because I didn't want to give them anything to gripe about but then they started throwing popcorn so I just gave them a polite but firm "Stop doing that please" and they quickly settled down. They seemed to like the movie but they were also distracted a lot by talking to each other and passing the candy back and forth. They seemed a bit confused at times but seemed to know who all the characters were so I think they were familiar with the show.
It's hard for me to judge if they liked it or not because my kids have always sat very attentive to a movie when we've gone out with them so I don't know if that was normal behavior for kids or not, especially boys.
And last week there was a lot of clapping and this week when I clapped no one else did. There was a group of people other than us who sat through the very end of the credits and it seemed like they were waiting for the theme song too. Stupid theater cut it off before it finished!
Firefly Flanatic | October 08, 09:39 CET
SweetMarilyn | October 08, 17:43 CET