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October 09 2005

(SPOILER) James Marsters talks about Brainiac. "I'm trying to get him to step up and be more than he thinks he is." And UK fans of James Marsters will be pleased to know that his TV Movie 'Cool Money' will be out on DVD on December 5th.

Speaking of which, when are we gonna see his character..umm, ever? So far, I've wasted 2 hours of my life and he was on the screen for about 2 seconds of it.
In case you missed the vide, check out this thread: http://whedonesque.com/comments/8391#more
I guess Brainiac wants to be Darth Vader to Clark's Luke Skywalker, although Brainiac's explanation about why Clark should destroy all humans is rather shaky.
eddy I added some info to your subject line about 'Cool Money' being out on DVD in the UK soon.
I hope they release COOL MONEY in region one.
"And how does Clark, more importantly, go from being a boy to being a man?"

I could give the scriptwriters a few suggestions. But that would be bad.
They're releasing Cool Money on dvd? Alright, I'm having a Bruce Campbell moment here, but "Why, because it was so good??"

Ok, I have it on tape, because of the pretty, pretty James, but it's not something I'd spend money on!
It's not as if it's a sixth showing of Firefly, eh? ;-)
It's not as if it's a sixth showing of Firefly, eh? ;-)

You mean Serenity? You darn tootin'! I don't think Cool Money can even lick the boots of Serenity. But then again, Joss has ruined me for most entertainment...
They're releasing Cool Money on dvd? Alright, I'm having a Bruce Campbell moment here, but "Why, because it was so good??"

I'm taking a wild guess but I'd say that it's because James is popular in Europe. The people there didn't get to see it since it was on USA network and TPTB think it could make money.

I want a Region one copy because my cable is crap.
James is popular in Europe. The people there didn't get to see it since it was on USA network and TPTB think it could make money.


I agree this probably is the reason because most US tv movies never show up on tv in Europe.
Well I'll be buying it. It's not Shakespeare but it was okay and I love me some Jimmy so I'll be supporting it and him.

He's extremely popular, they know the DVD's will sell well in Europe and will probably gauge how well before they decide on releasing a Region one version.

Each to their own. You go see Serenity yet again, I'll buy this DVD. It's all good. :0)
Sign me up for my copy too. I liked this little movie, and I hope it's just the beginning of many more ventures for James....all of which I will tape and then buy on DVD if offered. Can never get too much James for me, or Spike for that matter.
Ooh, I've been dying to get my hands on a decent copy of this film. I hope all his US film work ends up on DVD, Cool Money was actually pretty good for me and I'd much prefer a professional quality DVD than a download.

My bet is that the film company was inundated with requests for it to be shown here. JM merchandise sells and they know it.

It is actually an excellent strategy for film companies - I can't imagine a DVD release if he wasn't in it.

I'd make more effort to get a hold of CM than copies of Firefly *blush*. Each to their own :-)
Oh, I've no doubt the film folks saw a cash cow with James in it. Dvds are the future with this stuff anyway, so far as I can tell.

Some fans will buy anything with James in it or on it, I just hope James made a deal to get a piece of the pie-because it really seems like he's the only draw/selling point in that movie. Hell, they should start selling stills from CM, those would sell too.

My main disappointment was that this was a great story to tell, and several industry people had been interested in it at one time or another, and I don't feel this version delivered on the potential. The writing was poor, the acting was atrocious(save James, of course), and it felt too much like a tv movie, which if done right, some tv movies don't do. Just my opinion of course. Some folks thought it was great, but it seemed that most fans thought this wasn't James' greatest endeavor. And James himself said it was mainly for money, so it kind of makes sense.
Hey James did what he could with the project, as he always does, but a script that bad and inept can't be made into a good product, no matter who the actor is or how hard he tries. To even slightly bring up a comparison to anything from Joss' pen makes me laugh so hard it hurts.

I remember James saying he asked for a very large sum and was surprised that they said yes. So I can completely understand him. I'd have done their crappy movie too and laughed all the way to the bank.

But indeed, to each their own...;-)
I loved Serenity. I thought Cool Money was cute. I'll buy both on DVD--one for the great story and one for the lead, whose acting I always enjoy (plus great eye candy).
...Wait! There's a new Smallville villain whose evil focuses on making all of humankind regular?? That's some big news!

(...There's a typo in the link title. Get it? Ha! )

::crickets::

... Er, anyhoo...

Yup. Cool Money was kinda lame. But it's James, so I watched it, taped it, then downloaded it. I won't be buying it, though. I mean, blah. I figured he did it, aside from the money, because the character wasn't a vampire/drug addict/punk. So he could show a little of that fantastic range of his and try to get away from the typecasting.

Meanwhile, I'm still looking forward to seeing more of James as Brainiac. Whee!
There's a new Smallville villain whose evil focuses on making all of humankind regular??

Wow, I totally missed that, and I'm usually a spelling nit-picker to the annoying extreme. Right you are...'Bran'iac. He should take his place next to Count Chocula...cuz ya know, 'Braniacs' sounds like a decent cereal....or ya know...not...unless you're irregular...
Is anyone else tired of these SERENITY is better than everything else in the world discussions? I love Joss Whedon's work, but I like COOL MONEY, too. Sue me. It's not an epic, but it's damn cute and my favorite actor is in it.

James will be appearing in Thursday's episode. I hope.

[ edited by spikeylover on 2005-10-10 07:16 ]
Are we questioning the right for other Jossverse actors' less-than-spectacular movies to be released to DVD, or is this privilege reserved for James Marsters? Because if DVDs have to now pass the "Is it good?" test, it seems odd that Valentine and Harvard Man, among others, ever made it to disc. And while those two films may have had higher budgets and didn't "look like a TV movie" (and what's wrong with a TV movie looking like a TV movie?), even without the BtVS actors, I still liked Cool Money better. It wasn't spectacular, but at least I didn't find it cringe-worthy. And if Gigli, From Justin To Kelly, Glitter and Battlefield Earth are all widely available on DVD, why would anyone worry about why Cool Money is being released?
OK, now we seem to be having a backlash about a backlash. Yep, some folks who watched Cool Money think it's great, others think it's not up to much. Newsflash: we are permitted to express different opinions. I happen to think Harvard Man is a great, vastly underrated movie.

And spikeylover, this really shouldn't need to be said, but there's a reason this site is named Whedonesque rather than, say, Marstersesque or Spikesque. While it may be a matter of taste whether Serenity is better than Cool Money, it is a matter of fact that this site is specifically for fans of Joss Whedon, to discuss news and projects that have a connection to JW (rather than, say, JM). The board has always promoted discussion of Whedon alum also, hence this thread, and James has received as much of that as anyone else. But it remains a Whedon-focused site.
Why is everyone getting so touchy about this?

I saw Cool Money and thought James was great in it. Wasn't impressed with the actual plot but liked his performance. That said, it is a bit surprising that a cable channel movie is being released on dvd (at least for me it is) and it wouldn't matter what 'verse star was in it, it would still surprise me is all.

And yeah Valentine sucked (haven't seen Harvard Man so can't comment) but it was a big screen movie so no surprise there that it came out on dvd (and all those other movies you mentioned were also big screen movies and not TV).

And Spikeylover, are you actually saying that Cool Money is a better movie than Serenity?!?!
Are we questioning the right for other Jossverse actors' less-than-spectacular movies to be released to DVD, or is this privilege reserved for James Marsters? ... why would anyone worry about why Cool Money is being released?

I was just repeating a joke from Bruce Campbell when people asked if some of his lesser works were going to be put on dvd. Was just a joke. Yes, I found CM cringeworthy, yes, I think anything Joss has written was better than CM, but no, I'm not saying it can't be put out on dvd(if I had that power, I'd be wielding it towards some of those other movies mentioned as well!) It was a joke. Again, joke. People are completely free to put any movies, crappy or otherwise, on dvd, because frankly, that's where you can make money. And I think especially for less than great movies, dvds are the place to be. And again, I'm hoping James got a slice of the dvd action, because I'd assume that's where CM would make most of it's money anyway. Or not, I don't really know how it works with tv movies that go to dvd.
SNT - that "Why is everyone getting so touchy about this" wasn't geared at you - I was typing my message when you posted yours. I think I need to check out "Harvard Man" because you are not the first person on this board who said it was good.

[ edited by Firefly Flanatic on 2005-10-10 07:30 ]
(if I had that power, I'd be wielding it towards some of those other movies mentioned as well!)


Please tell me you would've used it to prevent Wicked Prayer from ever fouling my DVD player :)
Please tell me you would've used it to prevent Wicked Prayer from ever fouling my DVD player

If that's the latest Crow movie, yes. I was gonna say it, then I thought better of it. But...yes. Just...yes.

I think I need to check out "Harvard Man" because you are not the first person on this board who said it was good.


Ahem, yes, there are some rather nice...scenes...and here I'm referring to wild sex...
I'd buy Cool Money on DVD before I'd buy Winding Roads. Now that was awful. It hurt to sit through that movie. At least Cool Money had some funny stuff in it and JM having more screen time.

And wow I didn't know I typed "bran"iac. Haha. Oops.

[ edited by eddy on 2005-10-10 07:41 ]
LOL Rogue Slayer - guess I'll be getting that movie!!
Please tell me you would've used it to prevent Wicked Prayer from ever fouling my DVD player :)

Ahh, that bad was it eh? Didn't see it but I had this gut-feeling...

LOL Rogue Slayer - guess I'll be getting that movie!!

Embarrassing confession: those scenes are the only ones I've seen from that movie. Never saw the rest of it. Let's say Sarah is....very convincing. In that S6 kind of way;-)
Hee, I bought Winding Roads twice because I didn't realise the European version had the bad language dubbed. Cool Money has a much wider appeal, I think - also Winding Roads was a pure chick flick. For chicks who aren't like me :-)

But it was worth it for his scenes. Hey, I also bought Andromeda and his scenes really were the only worthy thing about that whole episode. I like the show in general but ugh... that episode has to be one of the worst they ever made.

Millennium on the other hand was a superb episode overall. Northern Exposure was also an excellent show with or without him. Cool Money? I think I'd have watched it anyway, but not bought it on DVD. It was worth it (like WR was worth it) to see him playing a human.

Rogue Slayer is right - tv shows and films are starting to discover that having James Marsters in an episode will boost sales for the DVD set.

With his international appeal, it makes sense for the production company and the fans. They want to sell stuff, we want to buy it :-)

As for Brainiac, I can't wait - Smallville has had an excellent start, and the more he talks about the role the better it seems. Another DVD set sold (and all the previous sets, because I like the show now).
Actually I rather liked "Cool Money "and I'm glad that it's coming out on DVD . It was a fun little film and, as ever ,James was great it in .It's pleasing to hear that it's coming out on DVD because those of us outside the US had no chance to see it on our screens .

It seems to me to be a fruitless exercise to compare a TV Movie of the week or any other film or show for that matter with any of Mr Whedon's stuff . We watch and buy different things for different reasons, Sometimes I'm in a Buffy or Angel Mood , sometimes I want to watch a rather fun frolic about Hotel Thieves and if I want a good laugh I'll dig out
" Winding Roads" and laugh at Rachel Hunter trying to smoke a cigarette ( trust me it's funny), or watch Eliza do her cheerleading stuff in "Bring It On". These films may not be great art but they are good entertainment and variety is the spice of life after all.

What I don't do is sit down to watch a show and think " ohh deary me it's not as good as Joss's stuff" Cos comparisons are odious .

But then I was one of those odd people who loved both Angel and Spike and never felt the need to get into those endless
" my vampire is better than your vampire" discussions.

So I'm certainly not getting into " Firefly is better than BTVS or ATS". I'm an equal opportunities Joss fan.

There is room in the heart for many loves and room on the DVD shelf for many films and shows.


"Serenity" is doubtless a very *very* good film . As soon as it arrives in my neck of the woods I shall go and see it , as soon as it comes out on DVD I shall buy it , but this isn't an either/or situation . By the time I get round to adding ""Serenity" to my collection I hope to have added all sorts of quirky little films and TV roles or guest spots featuring various Whedonverse Alums. Joss hires really good actors and, as a result , they get cast in all sorts of interesting projects and my DVD collection keeps growing.


It's all good

[ edited by debw on 2005-10-10 09:10 ]
debw--I loved both Angel and Spike too. I just couldn't choose, and quickly decided that I didn't need to. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
Vanity , the " censored" version of Winding Roads" was worth it to hear Billy/James saying " awww shoot".

It reminded me of the BBC early evening episodes of BTVS. They used to hack them to shreds cutting out all the stuff that Joss managed to sneak past the US people . By the time we got to Season 6 the episodes were getting silly . I kept expecting to tune in one week and see " Previously on Buffy.... Teaser, Credits brief pause....End credits "

[ edited by debw on 2005-10-10 09:54 ]
I loved Spike and Angel as well. AtS was the better show in general for me, but BtVS had Spike and a wealth of other good points. When the two were combined I thought it was an almost perfect show... then they cancelled it :-)

*blush* Once I realised it was censored I bought the NTSC version in under five minutes. Shoot is cute, but he swears nicely.

Here's to not having to choose ;-)
Talking about world domination plots – good to see SNT is still around. I was worried zeitgeist had buried him in the cellar. Hmm, although now I am wondering if maybe he did and we have the undead dead amongst us. Or maybe zeitgeist stole SNT’s face and is now wearing a bloody mask (blue blood of course). Or maybe they are each others doppelgängers. I am really frightened now.

And how comes zeitgeist ascends and Caroline disappears….

Haven’t seen Herb for a good long while…

Simon… hello,hello…can you hear me? Is it dark where you are…

And where have all the purple people gone…

(sorry, I am in a silly mood today)

Back on topic meanwhile, thanks for the DVD heads up. I am going to request my UK online rental service gets this one because joy should be shared amongst as many people as possible (this is why threesomes are highly recommended, or so I hear).
My taste includes both snails and oysters, so no need to choose between them. Each to their own that's what I say.
You are Spartacus and I claim my £5
And Spikeylover, are you actually saying that Cool Money is a better movie than Serenity?!?!

No, obviously not. I'm saying I don't know why it is necessary that we must compare the two. There is nothing in the least similar about either.

I agree with Simon. :)
I might be being a bit thick here, but how is one thread connected to JM turning Whedonesque into Marsters/Spike/Smallville-esque? It's not like we linked to his Paper Doll that you can dress up. And hey, he does have one over at MTS. :0)

In fact the rules do say "Posts about cast members, writers or other crew on the TV series are also encouraged." Cool.

debw/vanity I have Winding Roads and I had no idea it was dubbed. Even that pile of steaming manure showcases the man's talent. It's an awful film with terrible performances, but JM does a stirling job. It's a very different role to the others I've seen and while the film itself is bad, it is worth seeing it for his performance alone.

As to buying anything he's in. Well yeah. That's what fans do. We buy all things Btvs, Ats, FF, Serenity, JM, DB etc. It's our thing. Is this news?
I might be being a bit thick here, but how is one thread connected to JM turning Whedonesque into Marsters/Spike/Smallville-esque? It's not like we linked to his Paper Doll that you can dress up.


lynnie, its not that one thread is turning it into Marsters/Spike/Smallville-esque, its a gentle reminder that the reason for all of the Serenity hoopla is that this is first and foremost WHEDON-esque. There have been some Smallville posts that really did not involve James, and it has been mentioned that there will not be a thread to discuss every ep that he appears in here. That can be discussed over at whedonesque.org.
I'm sure that all of us have our own opinions and choose to spend our money on things we want to support. It's a very big world and there are many flavors out there....we can all just pick the ones that WE think taste best!!!!! Serenity fans can support their passion...Spike/James fans...theirs....DB,Joss,NF fans...theirs too. So what's the hassle? I think this site is plenty big enough to feature news on all the alumni of the Whedonverse, as well as other related topics. We just have to refrain from making everything into a contest, or blasting each other for having different opinions on what we think is 'good' or not....
Each and every one of us has the right to decide that on our own.....
Ah, Winding Roads... That was filmed in my hometown in Missouri, and I remember when we were all excited about Rachel Hunter filming in our rinky dink town. Sadly, I knew nothing of James back then, or I would have tried to get in as an extra.

And yes, I can totally agree that Cool Money is Oscar material compared to WR. And much more satisfying for a James fan to watch, as 'Billy'(I think that was his name) was barely in the movie!
its a gentle reminder

Firstly that wasn't a gentle reminder

it has been mentioned that there will not be a thread to discuss every ep that he appears in here


Secondly nobody asked for threads for every episode he appears in.

I do feel we are getting to the stage though , as happened to SMG posts last year until it was sorted out , that if someone posts something postive about JM someone else seems to feel it's their duty to post disparaging remarks whether directly about him or work he has appeared in.
I'm a big Joss fan, but I do actually like other things, too. Don't you think you bite the hands that feed you when you put down other projects in comparison with SERENITY? Especially, when one has nothing to do with the other?

That was my point, but I think it went over people's heads.

I don't think any of us would be here if we weren't a fan of some form of Joss's work, whether it is Buffy, Firefly, ATS, comics..etc.
I thought rogue was joking since she's a Jm fan.
garda39, you already know that if you have something to say about board policies you should e-mail, rather than post it in the comments.

spikeylover, what you just said is very reasonable. However, what you initially said was "[i]s anyone else tired of these SERENITY is better than everything else in the world discussions?" I found that a troubling statement on a board that is, I repeat, dedicated to Joss Whedon. But thank you for the clarification.

Let's have no more discussion about Whedonesque policies in this thread please.
spikeylover (and others) -- I don't think its biting the hands that feed when its giving an honest opinion (or a cheeky one, when you come right down to it). People will endlessly compare things that have nothing to do with one another, its what they do... but it also bears noting that Rogue Slayer did not bring up the Serenity comparison to begin with. And that the Bruce Campbell quote was met with a bit of defensiveness where none was really warranted, IMO (though I understand defensiveness in service to 'verse actor loyalty). Everyone's entitled to their opinion - is this now the backlash to the backlash to the backlash? And, hey, lets not forget which one of us watched The Crow 4 ;) Available for further chatter on this offlist (email in profile).

ETA - Yeah, what SNT said ;)
I thought rogue was joking since she's a Jm fan.

Ah, so you were the one who got it when I said 'it's a joke'! :~)
Although, it's no joke I'm not that crazy about CM or WR, but as everyone here has said, it's cool to have different opinions and tastes. (I will say that WR had some pretty, pretty James hair....*sigh*)

And I do apologize if I offended anyone by comparing Cool Money to Serenity, but someone asked me if I felt Serenity was a better way to spend my money, and I responded. Um, passionately, yes...
garda39, you already know that if you have something to say about board policies you should e-mail, rather than post it in the comments.


That's odd mentioning board policy since I thought I was making some observations on comments posted.

I have no problem with board policy.

[ edited by garda39 on 2005-10-10 17:29 ]
"I don't think Cool Money can even lick the boots of Serenity."

"Some fans will buy anything with James in it or on it"

Rogue I think perhaps these were the comments that upset people. The first was your reply to a jokey remark and it is rather harsh. You love Serenity and that's great, but maybe a little understanding that some love CM would come in handy. I know you don't like it when people dislike Serenity. Each to their own, hey.

But the second remark sounds like a slam against JM's fans. It would be expected from people who hate JM and his fans. It just sounded way harsh coming from a JM fan. Now I realise you didn't mean it like that, but I'm sure you can understand how some may have been offended by it.

Back on topic finally, I love how exited JM is about this role and I can't wait to see him in this show. :0)
Personally, I think Rogue Slayer was right on with both remarks.
Well personally I will buy anything with him in it - I love his acting and he hasn't disappointed me yet. JM is like a sure thing for me, I enjoy watching him act and he chooses at least half decent projects (better and better as he gets more choice).

So yes, if he is in it I will watch it just based on past performance. Like buying a computer I suspect - if a company treats you good you go with them again :-)

Not sure about 'on' it. I'm not a big collector of magazines and photos and stuff. Although I admit if a Brainiac action figure came out I have shelf space for it.
garda39-

I have no problem with board policy


and yet

that wasn't a gentle reminder


and

nobody asked for threads for every episode he appears in.


As has been mentioned, you may take this up with myself or SNT via email (available in our profiles. Otherwise, that is the end of that line of discussion.
But the second remark sounds like a slam against JM's fans. It would be expected from people who hate JM and his fans. It just sounded way harsh coming from a JM fan. Now I realise you didn't mean it like that, but I'm sure you can understand how some may have been offended by it.


Is there anything untrue about my statement? Because I do believe that some fans will buy anything with James on it or in it. (The most ardent fans of any actor/band/sports team do the same) I'm sorry if that offends you, but I can't see how it could. And I don't see how you have to be a JM hater to note that.

As for the 'boot licking' remark, yes, that was one of my more 'passionate' statements, but I'm afraid I can't take that back either(though perhaps I should have restated it to be a bit less...harsh, because I have to remember that one man's garbage is another man's gold, or however that statement goes). I later explained why I didn't think CM was up to snuff, so it's not like I'm just dissing it to be dissing it.

I know you don't like it when people dislike Serenity.

No, I have no problem if people don't like Serenity. As with anything, I like to know *why* someone doesn't like things. And Serenity is not everyone's thing, I can totally see how it wouldn't appeal to all.

Personally, I think Rogue Slayer was right on with both remarks.

Well, you would, wouldn't you? :~P


Although I admit if a Brainiac action figure came out I have shelf space for it.

Ah, but who would win a fight between the Spike action figure and the Brainiac action figure???
Ah, but who would win a fight between the Spike action figure and the Brainiac action figure???


And what if one were to add cavemen or astronauts to the mix, eh?
And what if one were to add cavemen or astronauts to the mix, eh?

And Ben vs...no, no, I won't even go there...
Well to qualify my meaning the word I had a problem with is "gentle"
garda39 - in reading the posts, all I can say is that it looked like a gentle reminder to me. *shrug*
I suspect a Brainiac figure would win - Spike has problems holding his weapons. Actually my Spike has problems standing up on his own.

Anyway, Brainiac has a goal, a higher purpose, the future of his planet at stake. Spike has Man U and dog racing and his nice friend Angel to fight for.
Btw what is 'harsh' about saying that some people will watch or buy anything because their favorite actor is in it? Hell we watched 'The Mountain' because JM was in it! I'd say that's a compliment to the actor. But as much as a fan I've been of certain actors/writers/singers etc in my life, it still doesn't mean everything they're in is automatically good. Brando, Pacino and DeNiro are considered some of the world's best actors and all of them appeared in a big number of stinkers along with their good movies!

Ah, but who would win a fight between the Spike action figure and the Brainiac action figure

Hmmm, depends, is Brainiac going to have CGI-oil power grip action??

Anyway, Brainiac has a goal, a higher purpose, the future of his planet at stake. Spike has Man U and dog racing and his nice friend Angel to fight for.

And Buffy's panties to sniff, don't forget that;-)
garda39 - Was there a part of 'email me for any further discussion of this' that you did not understand? To make this absolutely crystal, the preceding question (or any other comment on this topic) should only be answered in an email sent to the address listed in my profile.
Spike has problems holding his weapons.


I'll hold Spike's weapon for him....Oh yeah, I went there EdDantes, whatchoo gonna do about it??
My Spike doll didn't come with panties, just an axe to grind. Where are you buying your figures from?

Clearly Brainiac would win. He is more motivated and less flammable we assume, unless he is always as oily as his mighty morphing substance stuff.

And no matter how obnoxious people get about JMs work - he gets watched, he sells merchandise and *checks the comments* he gets talked about. A lot. That's worth more to a potential employer than whether Cool Money is going to win awards for snappy dialogue.
Hope I'm not repeating anybody else's comments here. I just breezed through the above back and forth stuff***...

I enjoyed watching the clip with his interview and hearing what he has to say on it. As someone in one of these threads mentioned, he's so method! Either that or he's cut down on the Red Bull! :) 'Cause he sure seemed calmer than in some interviews! He seems to be very much into the role and I think it's an excellent opportunity (from a resume standpoint) for him to have the opportunity to develop a new character over several episodes.

Obviously, it's also a good choice as Smallville appears to be doing well this season. I'm enjoying it. I never could get into it in previous seasons, but so far I'm finding it entertaining. Deep and philosophical? Heck, no. However, it is light, fairly unoffensive entertainment, and it works. With one clarification; I've not ever enjoyed the long endings each ep seems to have, all that mooning over each other stuff, not my cuppa.

I'm interested in seeing what sort of character Brainiac really is and how James plays him, aside from my rather basic Superman knowledge. I get the feeling that James' inner geek is enjoying the hell out of playing a comic book character.


***perhaps the note about the Cool Money DVD should have had a separate thread? Just a thought, but it seemed kind of confusing to me to combine the two together.

[ edited by Grace on 2005-10-10 19:52 ]
*sigh*

I can't compete with tag teams. *rolleyes*

Spike would kick Brainiac butt. Spike is a fighter, Brainac a thinker. Spike's a thinker too, but he's no computer brain.

Poor action figure Angel, Spike's gripping action is somewhat lacking. :0)

Agreed Gracie, two threads wont kill the board. *shrugs*
If you are curious as to why Simon chose to combine these, do please ask him. lynnie, as was mentioned to garda39 above, you are welcome to discuss board policy (or just roll your eyes to your heart's content :)) in an email to me.
I'm not curious as to why Simon combined them
garda39 - that was for Grace and lynnie who both wondered 'aloud' why he would have done so.
zeitgeist I wasn't curious either. Just commenting, not criticising.

*hands up in the air, walking slowly away from the thread* ;0)
There is no way Spike woud beat Brainiac in a fight, not even dolly Spike.

Brainiac would trick Spike into getting trapped somewhere and then stake him quickly. Because he is brainy he wouldn't waste time saying things like 'muahaha who is the clever one now, I have beaten your puny vampire *chokes when Spike kills him*'

Spike doesn't stand a chance. I love him to bits, but nuhuh.
(It's cool, was just a passing thought...)

"Anyway, Brainiac has a goal, a higher purpose, the future of his planet at stake. Spike has Man U and dog racing and his nice friend Angel to fight for."

Good point, vanity. They sure do seem to be characters with widely varying goals! Brainiac's is a little more "global" than Spike's usual more self-involved wants and needs tended to be.

The interview struck me as all the more interesting when James mentioned the world ending, as a friend of mine just this week actually started a conversation with, "You know, we're all going to be dead in 75 years because the polar ice caps are melting." - like I'll still be kicking at 115?!?

[ edited by Grace on 2005-10-10 20:36 ]
Wasn't meaning to come off snippy on that, just thought if you cared enough to post you might care enough to hear from the horse's mouth as it were :) Now, back to your regularly scheduled Spike Action Figure Sweaty Sexy Cage Match Extravaganza(tm) ;) -- now with more Sexy Wounds(tm).

like I'll still be kicking at 115?!?


Depends on if your pale friend William visits you in the night, eh?
"Depends on if your pale friend William visits you in the night, eh?"

This is true, hadn't really thought of that! I just about fell out of my chair laughing at your post, so it's quite possible I'll be accidentally off'ing myself before that could happen, anyway. :)

[ edited by Grace on 2005-10-10 20:53 ]
Hmm ya know I don't know enough about Brainiac in this version yet. (Apart from his oily tendencies that is.) Besides they may not even fight. I can see Spike just making a lot of snarky comments about Brainiac being stiffer than a watcher's backside and Brainiac not getting it and complaining Spike is 'illogical'.

Which would be kinda boring, yes. Okay, fine. How's this: Brainiac goes all oily, Spike tosses his cigarette in him and he burns up. Spike goes for a drink and bores a bartender with stories about Buffy's 'golden tresses'....
I don't know vanity, Spike isn't a slouch in the brains department either. He could recite poetry at Brainiac until he turns back into oil from the pain of listening to it. Then he'd quickly roll in it and go find Angel so they could wrestle. :0)

[ edited by lynnie on 2005-10-10 21:04 ]
lynnie -- I'm detecting a distinct Spangel-ship vibe here ;) Or maybe they are just wrestling for your gratification and not their own, eh :)
I am extremely excited to see James on Smallville. Can't wait!

um....did anyone else notice that zeitgeist is blue?
Well, Buffy's the one who mentioned oil first so blame it all on her! :)
Figured that'd bring ESG out of the woodwork :)
Haha, zeitgeist. How'd you know I was lurking?
zeitgeist Hey, if they get something out of it too all's the better.

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