On the blooper tape, there's a hilarious performance by Nathan from this episode. Anyway, for me this the most emotional of the Firefly episodes. It's very powerful.
And without further ado, the Cinefastique commentary from Whedon and Minear.
Joss
The episode we were shooting when I got to tell everybody that we were cancelled. I love that episode because it dealt with war, Mal’s morality and a dead body, which is always fun. It bears an enormous sadness considering it’s all about death and betrayal and honor and sadness - it all worked out fine considering things. It bore that because everybody knew that it was over. Except me, who still refuses to admit it. It’s part of my charm, really. Tim and I wrote it together and I wrote the flashback. I was waiting for word and Peter Chernin had a call in to me and I didn’t know what was happening, so I wrote a joke flashback that was basically me and Tim in the trenches, waiting. The privates were all executives that kept coming in and putting us on hold. I gave it to Tim and it was actually an incredibly emotional joke, because it basically ended with the two of us waiting together to hear word; listening to Mulan Rouge on hold in the trenches. It was really Mal and Zoe, but Tim and I knew who it was, though neither of us will say which one of us is Zoe, because we both want to be her.
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Gail Berman called me and the only thing I had to say was, “Will you allow me to try and take this somewhere else?” She said yes, I thanked her and that was it. Then I went to the set and made the announcement.
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Gail Berman called me and the only thing I had to say was, “Will you allow me to try and take this somewhere else?” She said yes, I thanked her and that was it. Then I went to the set and made the announcement.
Tim
Great effects in that episode. There was a pretty exciting chase in a snow canyon between two spaceships. Which is amazing now that I’m working on another show where we can’t afford to have a room. Now it’s like, “Can I have a room with a table?” “No, it’s too expensive.” Joss and I wrote this episode and we were sort of writing it while I was directing. The scene that I remember the most is when I was shooting a certain scene on the bridge, Joss showed up on the set, pulled me aside and said, “They’ve cancelled the show. Do you want to tell people now or do you want to keep shooting?” I said we should tell them. We gathered everybody around and Joss said they pulled the plug on the show, they’re not going to order anymore and he vowed to fight for the show in any way that he could, which he has been doing ever since. So everybody went off and got drunk, I guess, and then we came back. This was a Friday night and I stopped in the middle of shooting a scene. We came back on a Monday and the first scene back I had to shoot - when people look at the DVD, they should look at the scene where it’s Mal and Inara and Zoe sitting around the dining room table, laughing their asses off as Mal is recounting a funny story about his dead privates [soldiers]. So the first thing we had to shoot with these people after telling them they were cancelled was a scene where they had to laugh hysterically. That was good acting. The thing is, it never became depressing in a way. We still had fun shooting the rest of that episode and I remember that the last thing I shot was the flashback to the battle scene, which is one of the things I’m proud of because it looks really cool and Joss wrote that scene.


jgsugden | October 15, 00:39 CET
lone fashionable wolf | October 15, 00:51 CET
Znachki | October 15, 01:09 CET
And this line; "Girl's a mind-readin' genius, can't figure out how to eat an ice-planet." - Jayne
SpookyRiverFan | October 15, 01:18 CET
The Dark Shape | October 15, 01:58 CET
Oh, and there's something in a jar...
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Why, is there someone you ARE good at
talking to?
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:)
PS: I have seen Serenity tonight, for the very first time.
Never will again.
Not with the french dubbing... it ruined the show for me...
Le Comité | October 15, 02:01 CET
And Shepherd Book was tremendous. A very recent convert to Firefly, a longtime friend, wrote to me about how Book appeared "to be a man who, when giving commands, expects them to be followed immediately. In short, I see a man not of the cloister, but of the quarterdeck."
This, after the first time he saw the episode!
A great, great episode.
A great episode, by my lights.
Chris inVirginia | October 15, 02:01 CET
Danica | October 15, 02:01 CET
Never will again.
Not with the french dubbing... it ruined the show for me...
I just got back from my 5th viewing, the reason for this one was that a French friend of mine came over today specifically to watch Serenity without the French dubbing. We just got back and read this so I'm sorry you had to suffer it. We're going back to see it again tomorrow so I guess it was worth it :)
Paul_Rocks | October 15, 03:00 CET
Grounded | October 15, 03:13 CET
The Dark Shape | October 15, 03:19 CET
IMForeman | October 15, 04:09 CET
Ice Planets.
And the final scene. It's heartbreaking, and I always make me want to cry.
Those are all great moments from this episode.
This episode also features, Richard Burgi, who I was already a fan from his "The Sentinel" days.
There are some great lines from Tracey, though I'm not great fan of him. Tracey it's actually the most annoying character from he select few that Jonathan played in all ME shows. He's a little too whiny for my taste.
Numfar PTB | October 15, 04:42 CET
[ edited by electricspacegirl on 2005-10-15 03:27 ]
electricspacegirl | October 15, 05:22 CET
And then I drove Serenity and it was a lovely day.
Allyson | October 15, 06:26 CET
I had the slightly unfortunate situation of viewing out of order and seeing The Message last. Story wise it didn't make sense. Emotion wise however it was a pitch perfect ending.
StaffOSimon | October 15, 06:37 CET
Lioness | October 15, 06:52 CET
electricspacegirl | October 15, 07:17 CET
I'll be in my bunk, too.
wissxwe | October 15, 17:46 CET
It's hardly the same situation though. Mal and Book create the situation where Tracey thinks he has to take a hostage by not telling him the plan. If anything, they're putting the crew at risk by trying to keep Tracey in the dark. And why bother anyway? It would take all of one breath to tell him the plan. Quite frankly, it's ridiculous.
Grounded | October 16, 01:16 CET
Firefly Flanatic | October 16, 03:40 CET
Paul_Rocks | October 17, 00:04 CET
That one is a riot, his expression is perfect, but some of the bet gags were not on the DVD I recently purchased. I had to find and download them from the web. Such a shame...there are some gems.
Patpaws | October 18, 02:33 CET