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November 15 2005

Buffy: The Chosen Collection DVD boxset out today in the States. Entertainment Weekly calls it "a "colossal missed opportunity" because 20th Century Fox "failed to deliver the mother lode of extras" that the fans expected. Also out today on general release is the Tru Calling season 2 DVD which contains the final episode that Fox never aired.

ITA with this reviewer. I would have bought the whole bloody thing again if we'd had deleted scenes and the extras talked about.

I can't see forking out that kind of money for the little bit that is new, though. (although I would love to have that extra DVD)
Me too, spikeylover. I didn't get this because I couldn't justify it when i already own all 7 seasons. I'd LOVE to get the extra DVD, but the price isn't worth it. If they had added a lot of new extras, on the other hand, it would have been very tempting....

nice comments by the reviewer, though, calling BtVS "one of the seminal TV shows of the last 50 years." I completely agree, of course, but it's always nice to have more mainstream critics seconding that, especially when i get continually teased by my very-non-genre-loving family and friends, who simply can't get past the name and premise to give it a try. My "but the writing is fabulous!" and "You don't understand, it's all about the metaphor" pleas are rarely believed.

Has anyone here received their boxset yet? Any comments on extra DVD?
Such a shame they didn't take full advantage of the diehards fans and their willingness to part with their money for a wonderful product. Yet another opportunity wasted.
My guess is that when we get everything re-released in Blu-Ray (some five years hence), we'll see more extras, commentary, etc.
Well, I just ordered my box set from deepdiscountdvd.com, $111.89 out the door. I only have season 1 & season 7 (hey, those were the ones that'd shown up on great big sale), and I don't see how I'd get the other 5 seasons cheaper than this. So for me, it's all good. I really do think that if you have all the seasons, this can't possibly be worth it. You know those extras are going to show up elsewhere, or be offered on their own -- on ebay, if nowhere else.

So I'm just gonna be screwed when they *do* release the big ol' deleted-scenes-commentary-on-every-episode-hey-look-SMG-finally-did-commentary-set. *sigh* ;)
Does anybody know if they're restoring the missing scene from Season 7 "End of Days" (the one with Faith blowing up) that was missing from the Season 7 DVD set in Region 1? Or has this been answered before? Although I don't want to fork out this much since I already have all the seasons, this would be something in the "Yes" column when I further debate it with myself.
One thing I would really love to see is the deleted scenes, the ones that we hear in interviews or commentaries by the writers or actors where they mention scenes that they filmed but which were cut for time. Because on the Firefly DVD, there are several deleted scenes, most of which actually contribute to the story, and I can only imagine how many of these scenes would have accumulated over the years on Buffy and Angel. Even the deleted scene from "Waiting in the Wings" is really funny and worth seeing out of context of the episode, even if you don't want to consider it canon. The same goes for bloopers, of which there must be many throughout the years, than just what we've seen so far.

I'd also like to see the season four region 2 DVD released with the Seth Green commentary, which wasn't on the initial release, which I have, and I'm not sure if it's been in the R2 series boxsets. Personally I'm not going to buy this as it doesn't offer me much that I haven't already got, but if there were a lot more commentaries or deleted scenes then I would consider buying a second copy.

One thing that has always bugged me is that the quality of the outtakes is always really crappy, compared to finished episodes. I don't know much about the technical side of things, so does anyone know why that is?

Do we definitely know that all the deleted scenes and bloopers and stuff have been kept?
Razor, outtakes and deleted scenes are often much poorer quality because no one took the time (since they weren't going into the fnished episode) to polish them up. They're usually just straight footage.
It makes you realize how much technical work goes into all the TV and movies we actually see to make the picture look professional. And is probably yet another reason my home movies never look quite as good as commerical stuff :-)
Does anyone know if they're restoring the missing scene from Season 7 "End Of Days".

No, spikeangellover, this region 1 content is the same as the others with the exception of the extra disc.
One of the extras mentioned in that article is the original Buffy pilot, with Riff Regan playing Willow, which Whedon has mentioned a couple of times in interviews that as long as he has a say in the matter it will never see a professional release. :) So I don't expect to ever see that anywhere.

However, as others have mentioned, I would love to see deleted scenes. Or even better have footage restored for expanded episodes!! I'm sure a LOT of us would end up buying DVD's again if they did that. I can understand that scenes that were cut for story pacing would likely remain cut, however a lot of scenes seemed to have simply for time and would have remained if it wasn't for the strict time constraints that tv shows are faced with.
I agree with the deleted scenes thing. Imagine if UPN had gone ahead and cut OMWF and we'd never seen the full version. That would be criminal!

I can see the BluRay version coming out, but it will be one disc! I'd feel cheated!

But I'd also be tempted to hit "Play All" and sit there for four days watching all one hundred hours non stop.
Thanks, Madhatter; it's too bad that if they were going to re-release it they didn't bother to add the missing scene. Guess not enough people complained about it the first time around.
I can see the BluRay version coming out, but it will be one disc! I'd feel cheated!
BluRay disk would be able to hold 50GB, compared to todays disks that hold only 4.7 GB. So that means 1 BluRay disk will hold around 10 old DVD's on them. So that means the whole Buffy collection will be around 4 disks, not one. It will still seem strange to get ALL of Buffy on just 4 disks, or getting complete seasons of tv shows just on one disk! That also will mean there's now way to tell how many extras networks or studios have placed on the DVD by the number of disks, since just about all releases will be one disk.
Well, that's a nice theory but if (when) Buffy will be released on Blu-ray (or HD-DVD), it will not be standard definition format like now but high definition (in higher resolution) which takes up a lot more space than SD. So don't worry, your Blu-ray Buffy-collection won't be just one or two discs :) Maybe 10 episodes per disc would be more realistic.
Does anybody know if any of those scenes that were cut for time still exist? Weren't the dailies from Smashed et al found in the trash or something, or is that just a myth?

I guess I just wonder if there is anything still in existance that Joss wouldn't mind seeing put on the DVD's. If there are, put me on the deleted scenes wish list. Everytime I hear a commentary where they talk about the scenes cut for length (the one discribed in LMPTM between Spike and Wood verbally sparring in the kitchen leaps to mind)I just about salivate. I am just afraid they are all gone. (Pardon this tear.)
" if (when) Buffy will be released on Blu-ray (or HD-DVD), it will not be standard definition format like now but high definition (in higher resolution)"

Only if buffy was filmed in High-Def, which I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
Does anybody know if any of those scenes that were cut for time still exist? Weren't the dailies from Smashed et al found in the trash or something, or is that just a myth?

Well, I know there are a lot of illegal copies of the dailies for sale and/or download on the Internet, so one would think there's some original source material out there.
The standard DVD disc is double 4.7 GB, or 9.4 GB.

And I bought this release even though I already have the first 6 seasons on DVD because I have no willpower when it comes to BtVS, and I also doubt that the version chock full of deleted scenes and commentaries will ever materialize. I think it's just the snazzy little box set that lured me in.
Single layer DVDs are 4.7, dual layer are 9.4. As a sidenote BD-ROM discs (Blu-ray) are 25GB as single layer and 50GB as dual layer. For the record 4 hours of HD or 13 hours of standard def tv content would fit on a 50gb (dual layer) BD-ROM.
All I want to see is the deleted scene from 'Lies My Parents Told Me' where Giles confessed to Buffy that he killed Ben.
Yes, it is possible to buy the dailies at Ebay but what I'm dying to see are the deleted scenes.

I pay just about anything to see the original dream sequence from Out of My Mind. The stills have whetted my appitite to see that scene.
I don't know if they filmed it or if it was only in the script but I would have loved to have seen Giles and Wood toking on a joint, which was cut from Chosen.
I'd love to see the scenes in Chosen where Dawn was around for more than a few seconds. Oh wait, that never happened did it? Just my imagination, then.
Simon - they filmed that? *choking noise* I would have really liked to have seen the reaction on that one.

I often wonder what got left on the cutting room floor, what was scripted but unshot, or what was just ... considered. Surely with all of the S7 Spuffy we would have time for the impactful confession we didn't quite get in "Selfless" (but so close).
" if (when) Buffy will be released on Blu-ray (or HD-DVD), it will not be standard definition format like now but high definition (in higher resolution)"

Only if buffy was filmed in High-Def, which I'm pretty sure it wasn't.


True it wasn't filmed Hi Def, but they could go back to the original 16mm and 35mm film that they did shoot on and make a Hi Def transfer. Of course, they most likely mastered the shows in standard def, so it would be a fair amount of work to go back and transfer the film to HD, possibly re-color correct, and re-assemble each finished episode in hi def. Definately possible, but maybe not cost effective.
That's right, it definately can be done, but it's not cheap. But, for example Babylon 5 and Twin Peaks were remastered in HD for the current DVD-releases (and thus are ready to be released in HD when the studio wants to) so I don't see why BtVS couldn't get the same treatment.
I don't know if they filmed it or if it was only in the script but I would have loved to have seen Giles and Wood toking on a joint, which was cut from Chosen.


Joss said he filmed it but knew he would have to cut it from the finished episode

It does make me wonder why he filmed it
Yes, I'll wait for Blu-Ray version too. I'm pretty sure BR will win. Anyway, FOX said they will release X-Files on Blu-Ray, so we can expect the same for Buffy and Angel. I'm sure they will re-master them.
I can't wait for the packaging :P

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