Sam Loeb and (a bunch of) The 26.
A quick report from the frontlines -- of awesome!
Slid into Wizard World L.A. today to sit in on the panel for the upcoming comic by Sam Loeb and The 26 (reported on here earlier, don't ask me to link, I frighten easily.) On the panel, the very kings of comics: Jeph Loeb, Michael Turner, Tim Sale, Geoff Johns, Jim Lee, Pat Lee, Alan Heinberg, Rob Liefeld, splendiferous me, and more guys whom I either didn't know or were too far away to see. It's the most comics greatness to assemble in one room since Alan Moore sat very quietly by himself. Ironic, then, that the room should be so small and unpopulated. It was like the Avengers announcing their new line up -- to the Defenders. Really. I think we could have taken the audience in a tug-of-war. But the feeling was good, and the book looks great. Fun how all those different artists capture different ways of looking at Batty Jr and Li'l Supes, but what surprised even me was how the writers, without ever conferring or even knowing each other's parts, all seemed to find the same voice. Then I realized: It's Sam's voice. So no wonder.
Anyway, thanks to those who came. The book comes out in April.
(That thing I said about Moore --- didn't someone say that about Thomas Jefferson once? Oh well. If I don't mention it no one will notice.)
Oh, and I turned in a script for something. I can't remember what.
March 18 2006
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Capt Mel | March 18, 18:34 CET
Uh, I'm in the wrong thread, aren't I?
joss | March 18, 18:34 CET
Harmalicious | March 18, 18:34 CET
Yea for Joss; he rassled the Amazon and won! ;)
Disturbing odor? Was it turnip-like?
[ edited by Syren on 2006-03-19 04:15 ]
Syren | March 18, 18:36 CET
He's some random guy who pops up every now and then and gets into conversations with himself. You can safely ignore him.
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Grounded | March 18, 18:40 CET
jam2 | March 18, 18:42 CET
So when's shooting start? ;)
Really awesome to hear more about Sam's story. Thanks, Joss.
*Proceeds to destroy his Buffy spec script* Detecting sarcasm is not one of my strong points.
jfhlbuffy | March 18, 18:43 CET
Yep, totally agree on the fanfic thing. The very idea of trying to write a character that was actually created by somebody else. Absolutely repugnant to me. Erm, wait, does this mean i have to throw away the first few chapters of the Buffy/Angel novel i've been working on for over a year? Dammit.
Darkest Soul | March 18, 18:46 CET
Saturday Night Live sketch1967 pilot for WW? Hi-larious!) ;-)billz | March 18, 18:46 CET
Simon | March 18, 18:49 CET
lone fashionable wolf | March 18, 18:51 CET
(Looking around.) Ha, sometimes not being on Brit-time is an advantage! Mine is an evil laugh!
filops | March 18, 18:58 CET
Paul_Rocks | March 18, 19:03 CET
And yay for script turning in! Does this mean we get to start speculating again about who may be cast in that wonderous lady's role? I still vote for Morgan Freeman. Man, I'd see that guy in anything.
Arielle | March 18, 19:04 CET
I'm definitely looking forward to this book though. I was afraid I had missed it's release date, since I don't normally read "Superman/Batman".
WindTheFrog | March 18, 19:14 CET
But, being a Marvel guy, I'd have to substitute Stan Lee.
Or Jack Kirby.
Chris inVirginia | March 18, 19:17 CET
Dare I ask, expecting no answer, whether The Script is still way deep in the draft stage? "Draft? DRAFT!?! I am Joss - there is no draft!"
The First Weevil | March 18, 19:18 CET
Yes, that funny guy, just know how to give some really useful updates.
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Numfar PTB | March 18, 19:20 CET
The First Weevil | March 18, 19:23 CET
Thanks for the update. Yay, a script (jumps up and down)!
And thanks for the Fanfic support...it really does mean a helluva lot to those of us who spend many hours writing in your richly imagined 'verses. And hell, I probably get a whole heapin' helpin' more wonderful readers and reviewers when I post on a fan site than I ever would first time being published.
~Kessa
Kessa | March 18, 19:34 CET
escapist_dream | March 18, 19:36 CET
And I, for one, simply cannot wait for Turnip Feet: The Nathan Fillion Story, starring Harrison Ford. In fact, if I hurry, I might be able to beat gossi to registering a fan domain for it.
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@theonetruebix | March 18, 20:00 CET
I usually don't post just to LOL or LMAO, but -- LMAO! :-D
billz | March 18, 20:08 CET
Tycho | March 18, 20:09 CET
[ edited by Crypto on 2006-03-19 03:21 ]
Crypto | March 18, 20:11 CET
And turned a script in? More time to spend here, then. Go Joss!
Gill | March 18, 20:15 CET
Thanks for the news Joss. And sorry that there weren't more people to hear the news about the comic.
Lioness | March 18, 20:31 CET
I will second the motion but only if we can get Wesley Snipes in as a body double...I just don't think Morgan Freeman can pull off the bustier look. Don't get me wrong, I have great admiration for Mr. Freeman's body of work and without a doubt he could lasso all of our hearts with Wonder Woman's lariat but he is gettin' on in years.
Hey, wait a minute...Josh writes scripts?
DejaThoris | March 18, 20:35 CET
Congratulations on turning your script in! Not to go off topic here, but I saw V for Vendetta tonight, it was fantastic--next time you talk to Joel Silver, please tell him it rawked for me. I'm so excited already for Wonder Woman, I know you will do her great justice.
Lunakitty | March 18, 21:37 CET
RavenU | March 18, 22:13 CET
EDIT: Whoops. Comes out in April. I really should stop being stupid. It's effecting my life.
Joss, this script you turned in... might it have been the one with the Monkey and the Dog? Y'know, where they go on a magical journey though late 19th century Americana meeting historical figures?
[ edited by IMForeman on 2006-03-19 05:15 ]
IMForeman | March 18, 22:13 CET
As for the script: Wooooooo!!! Congrats, Joss!
GVH | March 18, 22:23 CET
I think you'll be alright though. Afterall, it's hard to make a script that really sucks when you are always, for lack of a better word, perfect.
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SpikeBad | March 18, 22:57 CET
Congrats on finishing the script Joss!
Now you can procrastinate all you want on here; not that we ever didn't want you too.
< subliminal message : Must film WW in Oz >
I gotta say I'm loving what has been done with this book. It's a beautiful way to remember and honour his memory. I hope it sells in the millions. I know I'll be buying one...or three.
< subliminal message: Wondy in Oz, now that's a great idea >
nixygirl | March 18, 23:01 CET
I thought that was already a done deal.
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@theonetruebix | March 18, 23:10 CET
non sequitur | March 18, 23:33 CET
coolpeace | March 19, 00:10 CET
I dunno if it's an actual done deal as yet; but more than likley. As Joss said when in Oz, Joel Silver certainly does like to film in Oz. So, I would say, more than likely, as opposed to done deal.
We do have the great tropical locations. Also we have the studios, and many a Browncoat to share a beer or three with.
< subliminal message: must cast fat woman as wondy gal. >
nixygirl | March 19, 00:37 CET
And about Wonder Woman...yay! I am very happy. Hope Joel Silver likes it.
(I saw V for Vendetta. Didn't like it. If Mr. Silver was impressed with that, I'm certain you can impress him, Joss. :-) )
UnpluggedCrazy | March 19, 01:02 CET
smog | March 19, 01:57 CET
Madhatter | March 19, 01:59 CET
Think it would be OK if we wrote fanfic about Joss? We can even turn him into a comic book!
ETA: Remind me never to click on one of Joss's "links" again. I can't believe I keep falling for that old trick!
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Nebula1400 | March 19, 02:03 CET
Caroline | March 19, 02:33 CET
Excellent movie! Although it seemed like James McTeigue had some trouble getting used to actually carrying a movie for once in the beginning scenes, he obviously learned more and more as time went by and all in all the movie turned out great.
And to get back on topic; WOOHOO! The Wonder Woman script is done, atleast the first draft. But being the loyal Joss fan that I am I truly believe that they'll love it with only minor adjustments requested (because always gotta change something, it's their thing) and that Joss WILL be able to start shooting at some point this summer. A 2 year gap between every Joss fix is already too much, let it not be any longer.
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Djungelurban | March 19, 03:16 CET
Snakes on a plane!
Aw man... It's finally made its way here to Whedonesque. I'm not sure if I'm horrified or thrilled...
Meanwhile, I am stunned that there was such a small audience for this Wizard World panel! Yeesh. If only I lived in the general vague area of LA (as opposed to Florida, where we never get any good Comic cons), I'd have surely been there. (Er... also if I had any money.)
Joss' bitch | March 19, 04:23 CET
Silent Night | March 19, 07:58 CET
catalyst2 | March 19, 08:42 CET
SpikeBad | March 19, 10:12 CET
This sounds like a wonderful cause. What an amazing tribute it is. Thanks for continuing to keep us informed.
Now, on to the PARTY. Congratulations on handing in the script!! Where is that champaign?
newcj | March 19, 11:35 CET
ooooh. bubbles! pretty.
Here's to hoping that not too many changes are requested to the script!
Lioness | March 19, 11:57 CET
bschnell | March 19, 12:01 CET
Patrick13 | March 19, 14:59 CET
nixygirl | March 19, 16:30 CET
Kevin. Not at all scared it'll get cancelled. Except a little.
gossi | March 19, 17:37 CET
Simon | March 19, 18:33 CET
delirium_haze | March 19, 18:37 CET
Nixygirl! Champagne coming up.
Lioness | March 19, 18:57 CET
Congratulations, Joss, on finishing the script. As Djungelurban said, I'm sure there will be very few changes required for the finished product and we all look forward to hearing about the next steps. Procrastination is its own reward - and I speak from experience!
samatwitch | March 19, 19:24 CET
And gossi, digging the subtle HIMYM reference. I'm telling you, one of these days, we'll have convinced everyone to watch the show. Maybe we should try a matrixesque 'there is no laugh track' mantra.
And, ooooh, champagne! Lioness, can I have some too? *holds up glass*.
And, finally, again, so we don't lost track (not that we were, mind you): I'm glad to see we're all going out and buying this comic book. Woo!
Okay, that's it, on with the script-wrap-party!
GVH | March 19, 19:30 CET
billz | March 19, 19:36 CET
Hey, this is Joss' thread too - this like having a party in Joss' house.
*looks aroung casually* (not that I am all stalkery or anything)
Hey look, Joss has a kitchen and everything. You'll always find me in the kitchen at parties (sorry, when I am e-drunk, I just can't stop myself). S-s-s-s-mokin'. Oh good grief, just shoot me n-
catalyst2 | March 19, 19:44 CET
JOSS FINISHED THE SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats Boss! And be sure and let us know the reaction, okay?
batmarlowe | March 19, 19:51 CET
Lioness | March 19, 20:05 CET
Bernard, I ate all your bees!
nixygirl | March 19, 22:12 CET
Hee hee hee
Kudos on a well-written (and well-aimed) bit of snark...
Though I don't know -- maybe Rob's grown up. Anything's possible. (Well, the entire Bush administration taking testosterone suppressents on a regular basis probably isn't.)
And I read in The New Yorker that Absinthe is going to make a comeback. Something to look forward to...
bookrats | March 19, 22:33 CET
Hjermsted | March 19, 23:57 CET
KimberlyJ | March 20, 01:03 CET
Oh, and...did someone actually shoot catalyst2? *worried*
GVH | March 20, 03:28 CET
I'll have a glass of that champagne, please!
sasja | March 20, 04:05 CET
As for absinthe ... yet another comeback? I thought it already did return, what, five or six years ago?
bschnell | March 20, 06:40 CET
It comes and goes out of fashion. I always find that absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.
Simon | March 20, 06:48 CET
Catlayst2 is still in the kitchen man.
*hollers*
Maaaaate! Get your but out here, somebody's just put on The Jam and we're all pogo-ing about the place!
*staggers over to Lioness*
Pour us another one lovey. Let's raise our glasses to the completion of the script. Hurrah!
*slams down booze, smashes glass on the fireplace*
Damnit, I needed that glass.
nixygirl | March 20, 07:21 CET
I'm there for issue 26.
starbreez | March 20, 07:37 CET
Nixy? Want the bottle?
Lioness | March 20, 07:59 CET
Nixy - not the absinthe again - you'll be doing Black Books references next. Whoops too late!
GVH - thanks for the concern but I am well used to be shot at (I work in the tertiary education system!)
Now what's to drink - champagne? Cool!
Eats? - nachos? any peanuts? you know the honey roasted dusted with chilli powder - I love those! Good music though - got to love All Mod Cons!
If I get really e-drunk, I'll put the Rocky Horror Picture Show album on and start singing "I'm Going Home" - I always cry at that one!
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catalyst2 | March 20, 08:08 CET
Did you say peanuts? I saw Simon hiding some behind his back. Not sure he wants to share, though...
GVH | March 20, 08:19 CET
Mind you, if he has peanuts, I may just have to mug him for them if he's not sharing! Still, I guess I shouldn't really mug an Exalted One the first time I meet him!
catalyst2 | March 20, 08:29 CET
Well yeah! When you are hitting time zones all the way around the world you have to expect a party to have some staying power.
Don't worry Lioness, I brought some more bubbly and and some munchies I had hanging around. Since we are in cyberspace we should have room to dance, right?
newcj | March 20, 09:25 CET
carinson | March 20, 09:39 CET
war_machine | March 20, 10:16 CET
Somebody stop me now - it's happening again! That thing I do with my mouth - you know, speak - and that's never good!
catalyst2 | March 20, 10:31 CET
...and you would not be wrong. New in one way, old in another. I like to keep my options open. ;-)
1 2 3 and
1 2 3 and...
newcj | March 20, 12:39 CET
SpikeBad | March 20, 14:59 CET
Hey everyone, a toast!! A toast to Sam!!
m'cookies actual | March 20, 15:23 CET
billz | March 20, 15:29 CET
*drinks from the bottle*
Now I'm up for a sing along.
"I have a theorryy that its a demonnnn,
a dancing demon no something isn't riiii"
*falls over Numfar, lands face first into the couch*
Hmmmmm, maybe I shold eat something to sober up a bit.
--Milwall, Milwall, your all really dreadful, and your girlfriends, are unfulfilled and alienated--
nixygirl | March 20, 15:52 CET
Lioness | March 20, 18:14 CET
I was just going to continue sitting over in the corner sipping champagne and nibbling on peanuts (I did bring my own Mexi-Mix, which I'm willing to share), but if we're going to have an OMWF sing-a-long, count me in.
And cheers for Sam! I'm looking forward to this comic - I have it on order at my comic shop.
samatwitch | March 20, 19:47 CET
Yourrr all a bunch wusses, I'll show ya a dance of joy.
*sees inviting couch again*
After I just sit down for a minute.
*passes out*
nixygirl | March 21, 01:47 CET
bottleglass*billz | March 21, 02:07 CET
Moore: "I Want Nothing To Do with 'Vendetta' Film"
V For Vendetta creator Alan Moore is desperate to be disassociated from the screen adaptation of his classic comic strip (sic) - and is begging the producers not to credit him for his work. The cartoonist (sic), who also conceived From Hell and The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, hates seeing his work diluted by movie-makers, and refuses to put his name to the result. He says, "I want them to say, 'We're not going to give you any money for your work, you're not going to get any credit for it and we're not going to put your name on it.' To see a line of dialogue or a character that I have poured that much emotional involvement into, to see them casually travestied and watered down and distorted... it's kind of painful. It's much better just to avoid them altogether."
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As much as I respect and admire Alan Moore's writing in the comic realm, I feel he has become somewhat of a diva when it comes to film adaptations of his superlative work. To pull his name from a specifically atrocious film adaptation (LXG for example) is one thing but pulling his name from ALL adaptations?! I think we have a nominee for this year's Get Over Yourself Award... Whatever is wrong with a "adapted from the writings of Alan Moore" type of credit?
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